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Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 03, 2011, 01:32:40 AM
Hello everybody:

The Feast Day of St. Dominic is upon us, and in honor of the great Saint who brought us the great treasury of Our Blessed Mother, the Most Holy Rosary, here is attached the Little Office of St. Dominic taken from the rare little book Devotions to Saint Dominic, compiled by Rev. Fr. Bertrand Wilberforce, O.P., (North Guilford, CT: Our Lady of Grace Monastery, 1957).

Happy reading!  :reading:

Happier praying!  :pray:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 03, 2011, 01:46:00 AM
Hello again:

Taken from the above-cited book Devotions to Saint Dominic, here is the text for the Proper Mass of St. Dominic as found in the Missal according to the Sacred Rite of Friars Preachers, and the Romano-Seraphic [Franciscan] Missal.

Enjoy!  :reading:

Pray!  :pray:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: roscoe on August 03, 2011, 01:57:55 AM
Quote from: Hobbledehoy
Hello everybody:

The Feast Day of St. Dominic is upon us, and in honor of the great Saint who brought us the great treasury of Our Blessed Mother, the Most Holy Rosary, here is attached the Little Office of St. Dominic taken from the rare little book Devotions to Saint Dominic, compiled by Rev. Fr. Bertrand Wilberforce, O.P., (North Guilford, CT: Our Lady of Grace Monastery, 1957).

Happy reading!  :reading:

Happier praying!  :pray:


St's Dominic & Francis met in Rome.

A Go Down function in the Forum would be nice.  :farmer:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Sigismund on August 03, 2011, 07:01:23 PM
I will make a point of saying this on his feast day.

According to a story in Chesterton's biography of St. Thomas, St Dominic was once visiting the Vatican.  After showing him around, the Pope said, "see, Peter can no longer say 'Silver and gold have I none".  Dominic replied,  "Yes, Your Holiness.  He can also no longer say, 'Arise, take up they mat, and walk.'"
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: wallflower on August 03, 2011, 07:04:43 PM
This is lovely, thank you.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: roscoe on August 03, 2011, 07:12:37 PM
Quote from: Sigismund
I will make a point of saying this on his feast day.

According to a story in Chesterton's biography of St. Thomas, St Dominic was once visiting the Vatican.  After showing him around, the Pope said, "see, Peter can no longer say 'Silver and gold have I none".  Dominic replied,  "Yes, Your Holiness.  He can also no longer say, 'Arise, take up they mat, and walk.'"


Which Pope allegedly said the above to St Thomas?

It takes over a minute to scroll down to the bottom of this page.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 03, 2011, 09:39:01 PM
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St's Dominic & Francis met in Rome.


The two great Saints were dear friends. In fact, there is a curious tradition amongst the Dominicans and Franciscans that is not found elsewhere (at least as far as I know), wherein these two Orders honor one another's Founders. The Dominicans honor St. Francis with a Proper Mass and Office and the Franciscans do the same with St. Dominic with a Proper Mass and Office.

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A Go Down function in the Forum would be nice.  :farmer:


Pushing the "END" button on your keypad should do the trick!  :reporter:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 04, 2011, 12:16:49 AM
More from the above-cited book Devotions to St. Dominic.

Enjoy!  :reading:

Pray!  :pray:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 04, 2011, 12:23:26 AM
Here are the Hymns in the Proper Office of St. Dominic, together with the Sequence at Mass, and an Antiphon and Responsory, translated and explicated by Rev. Fr. Aquinas Byrnes in his book Hymns of the Dominican Missal and Breviary (St. Louis, MO: B. Herder Book Co., 1943).

Happy reading :reading:

Happier praying!  :pray:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Sigismund on August 04, 2011, 06:56:15 PM
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Quote from: Sigismund
I will make a point of saying this on his feast day.

According to a story in Chesterton's biography of St. Thomas, St Dominic was once visiting the Vatican.  After showing him around, the Pope said, "see, Peter can no longer say 'Silver and gold have I none".  Dominic replied,  "Yes, Your Holiness.  He can also no longer say, 'Arise, take up they mat, and walk.'"


Which Pope allegedly said the above to St Thomas?

It takes over a minute to scroll down to the bottom of this page.


I don't remember.  The pope said it to St. Dominic, not St Thomas.  I read it in "The Dumb Ox", G.K. Chesterton's biography of St Thomas.  I make no claims for the veracity of the story.  It may well be a legend.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Pyrrhos on August 06, 2011, 10:10:42 AM
Thank you so much, Hobble!

Sigismund, why should the Pope show St. Dominic only the tiny Vatican, when he had all the Patrimony of St. Peter in his hands?  :smile:

But seriously, I think it is very unhealthy to identify the Vatican with the Holy See, even though it is hard for us to imagine that the Papacy was more than a few square meters of Roman soil, especially since so much of the ceremonial and custom changed starting with that cursed occupation of Papal Rome.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Sigismund on August 06, 2011, 05:49:04 PM
True enough.  It may well be that the story is a bit to amusing to actually be true.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: roscoe on August 06, 2011, 06:14:02 PM
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Thank you so much, Hobble!

Sigismund, why should the Pope show St. Dominic only the tiny Vatican, when he had all the Patrimony of St. Peter in his hands?  :smile:

But seriously, I think it is very unhealthy to identify the Vatican with the Holy See, even though it is hard for us to imagine that the Papacy was more than a few square meters of Roman soil, especially since so much of the ceremonial and custom changed starting with that cursed occupation of Papal Rome.


.....unhealthy to ID the Vatican w/ the Holy See?  :confused1: :confused1:

What ceremonial and custom changed w/ what occupation of Papal Rome?  :confused1:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Pyrrhos on August 06, 2011, 06:21:36 PM
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.....unhealthy to ID the Vatican w/ the Holy See?  :confused1: :confused1:

What ceremonial and custom changed w/ what occupation of Papal Rome?  :confused1:


Obviously the Holy See was prior to the Italian occupation not squashed into the tiny Vatican. Conclaves took place in the Quirinal Palace and the coronation at St. John Lateran, for example. Other public functions, such as the "urbi et orbi" blessing, could not take place, either (or later then only at St. Peter´s).

As you can see, Rome gave an entirely different picture in earlier times.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: roscoe on August 06, 2011, 06:25:28 PM
The Vatican and the Holy See are one in the same until 1958-- long after the Italian occupation of Rome. If U Mean Papal States then Say Papal States.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Pyrrhos on August 06, 2011, 06:27:27 PM
The Holy See is bound to Rome, not to the Vatican. Prior and beyond 1958 and till the end of times, as can be read in any theological manual.
The equalization of the Vatican with Rome is of rather recent origin.
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 07, 2011, 11:26:30 PM
Someone recently told me that O-bummer's birthday anniversary coincided with the Feast Day of St. Dominic. I don't know if this is true since I watch or read as little news reports as possible (as an elder gentleman told me, "It angries up the blood!").

From The Dominican Missal in Latin and English (Oxford: Blackfriars Publications, 1948), here is a Mass formulary appropriate for such a coincidence.


 :smirk:


Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: evensong on August 18, 2011, 12:29:58 PM
Thanks, Hobbledehoy for this and for several other of your posts. Because of you, i discovered archive.org and through them, many good e-books that would have otherwise been unknown or unavailable to me. I love reading the beautiful and truly good writings of our Church before the calamity struck, for me, it's a potent "antitoxin".
Maybe someday I'll have something good to share too!
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 18, 2011, 10:52:44 PM
Quote from: evensong
Thanks, Hobbledehoy for this and for several other of your posts. Because of you, i discovered archive.org and through them, many good e-books that would have otherwise been unknown or unavailable to me. I love reading the beautiful and truly good writings of our Church before the calamity struck, for me, it's a potent "antitoxin".


You are very welcome, friend! This is the reason why I participate here at CathInfo.

Good Catholic reading is the antidote for all errors and disorders, whether doctrinal, moral, cultural, etc. It is great that the Universities are digitally archiving these old Catholic books, and offering them for free.

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Maybe someday I'll have something good to share too!


I look forward to that!

Attached is the prayer composed by St. Thomas Aquinas before study. It is good to pray this before reading Catholic books. It is taken from the book Breviary Prayers from the Roman Breviary: A Translation of the Communion and Occasional Prayers (Boston, Mass.: Society for the Propagation of the Faith, 1943).

Enjoy  :reading: and pray  :pray:
Title: St. Dominic!
Post by: Hobbledehoy on August 03, 2012, 10:36:23 PM
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Happy Feast Day of Saint Dominic!
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