What I'm saying is that I am personally aware of several cases from the late 1980s and early 1990s where no "investigation" was done before performing conditional ordinations.

Right,

I'm thinking that the old SSPX were more than happy to conditionally re-ordain novus ordo priests without conducting an investigation, "just in case". Now it seems that the present SSPX presumes that any novus ordo priest who wants to join them, is validly ordained, and they may investigate his ordination if it calls for.

Okay, how does that change the subject at hand? It has never been the policy of the SSPX to automatically re-ordain Novus Ordo priests.

It really is futile to try to talk sense to sedevacantists. I give up. The SSPX will, however, likely outlast any of the sedevacantist groups. The SSPX has many faults, but extremism isn't one of them. That's why they are likely to survive (provided they don't reconcile with Rome).

And the Resistance is likely to split after +W goes to his eternal reward, so I place no hope in them at all anymore.

Meg, conditional ordination and consecration has nothing to do with sedevacantism.  If Bp. Williamson ordained or consecrated using the new form I would have a grave doubt.  The issue is with a questionably defective form.    

And where would this be, if you don't mind saying?  (A general description, even if only the state, would suffice.)

It is the place that you can probably easily guess. 

Update: Not only did the SSPX suggest a novus ordo priest but when I refused to arrange for the novus ordo priest to visit my father the SSPX apparently decided that they would contact him anyways without our asking or my father agreeing to it. 

He just showed up at the hospital unannounced.  He was two days late.  Father Waters had already been there and my father was already doing better.  I wonder what he thought of that and if he reported it back to the SSPX... 

This is truly shameful. I am sorry for the anxiety and trouble you have been given over this, what seems to me, a dereliction of duty on the part of the SSPX priest.

A priest’s absolute first priority should be to go the the rescue of any soul who is tinkering on the edge of life and is willing to receive his ministrations, whatever his affiliation to this or that group within the traditional Catholic movement or even if he hs no affiliation. Such a person may be moreso in need of rescue from eternal danger.



Meg says, that is not his job.. But Priesthood is not a job. Priesthood is a heroic sacrifice for the salvation of souls - not just SSPX souls but all lost and abandoned souls.



Where is the heroic missionary spirit today?

What I'm saying is that I am personally aware of several cases from the late 1980s and early 1990s where no "investigation" was done before performing conditional ordinations.

You would have been in the best place to judge, but sometimes an investigation might have simply been the NO priest phoning the seminary, speaking with Bishop Williamson and explaining "Bishop Martin Luther Jr ordained me at the local circus". Response: "Lad, set up the chapel again". It would be interesting to hear BW's explanation. After all, Archbishop Lefebvre made it clear that in cases where there is no doubt, it is a sacrilege to "repeat" the ordination. There is no way that BW ever held the new rite to be automatically invalid. Agree?

Yeah... 

Father MacPherson said that they were on good terms with this novus ordo priest, Father Lundberg, and that he offered the Latin Mass at his parish and would use the Old Rite.

Interestingly...  The local Bishop has specifically said that any traditional Sacraments like Baptism and Extreme Unction are not allowed for his diocesan priests to do in our diocese.

So, that begs the question...  Would he have specifically gone against his bishop or actually have used the novus ordo "Anointing of the Sick" when he went?

I know a lady whose sister went to college with Fr. Lundberg.  She says that he is a nice man but that his ordination is definitely not certainly valid.

I have also heard of Fr. Lundberg before...  So, as soon as I heard his name I knew who Father MacPherson was talking about and flatly refused to have him visit my father. 

I told Father MacPherson we could just talk to Father Gee if we wanted to go that route since he had been my father's parish priest before he stopped going.  Apparently Father MacPherson didn't like that...  Father Gee causes too much tension for the SSPX.  😅

This Fr Lundberg, here, delegated to implement the policies of Traditionis Custodes??? Oh dear!

Arlington diocese delegate: Fr. Bjorn Lundberg - The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers - Catholic Info (cathinfo.com)