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Offline OABrownson1876

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Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2023, 10:48:38 AM »
Quote from: Meg on May 24, 2023, 04:29:35 PM
Okay, how does that change the subject at hand? It has never been the policy of the SSPX to automatically re-ordain Novus Ordo priests.

It really is futile to try to talk sense to sedevacantists. I give up. The SSPX will, however, likely outlast any of the sedevacantist groups. The SSPX has many faults, but extremism isn't one of them. That's why they are likely to survive (provided they don't reconcile with Rome).

And the Resistance is likely to split after +W goes to his eternal reward, so I place no hope in them at all anymore.
Meg, conditional ordination and consecration has nothing to do with sedevacantism.  If Bp. Williamson ordained or consecrated using the new form I would have a grave doubt.  The issue is with a questionably defective form.    
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2023, 12:22:45 PM »
Quote from: DustyActual on May 25, 2023, 07:42:49 AM
Right,

I'm thinking that the old SSPX were more than happy to conditionally re-ordain novus ordo priests without conducting an investigation, "just in case". Now it seems that the present SSPX presumes that any novus ordo priest who wants to join them, is validly ordained, and they may investigate his ordination if it calls for.

I believe that they did as a matter of course, and it was only when an NO priest became stubborn that they might relent (cf. the case of "Father" Stark that was one of the main contributors to the departure of "The Nine").
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Offline Mr G

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2023, 12:26:18 PM »
Quote from: SimpleMan on May 25, 2023, 09:56:22 AM
And where would this be, if you don't mind saying?  (A general description, even if only the state, would suffice.)
It is the place that you can probably easily guess. 
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Offline AMDGJMJ

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2023, 01:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Mr G on May 25, 2023, 12:26:18 PM
It is the place that you can probably easily guess.
St Mary's maybe?   :popcorn:
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Offline Nadir

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2023, 03:31:16 PM »
Quote from: AMDGJMJ on May 25, 2023, 06:01:25 AM
Update: Not only did the SSPX suggest a novus ordo priest but when I refused to arrange for the novus ordo priest to visit my father the SSPX apparently decided that they would contact him anyways without our asking or my father agreeing to it.  :facepalm:

He just showed up at the hospital unannounced.  He was two days late.  Father Waters had already been there and my father was already doing better.  I wonder what he thought of that and if he reported it back to the SSPX...  :popcorn:

This is truly shameful. I am sorry for the anxiety and trouble you have been given over this, what seems to me, a dereliction of duty on the part of the SSPX priest.

A priest’s absolute first priority should be to go the the rescue of any soul who is tinkering on the edge of life and is willing to receive his ministrations, whatever his affiliation to this or that group within the traditional Catholic movement or even if he hs no affiliation. Such a person may be moreso in need of rescue from eternal danger.



Meg says, that is not his job.. But Priesthood is not a job. Priesthood is a heroic sacrifice for the salvation of souls - not just SSPX souls but all lost and abandoned souls.



Where is the heroic missionary spirit today?





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