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Author Topic: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests  (Read 12289 times)

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Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2023, 07:42:29 PM »
I know this to be untrue, as I was at the seminary when various NO priests arrived to receive conditional ordination simply by their request.  There was no investigation.  One priest said he had no doubts about his orders but said he wanted to get conditionally ordained to put the faithful at his chapel at ease (since many of them did have doubts).  No investigation was done for those cases about which I have first-hand knowledge from my time at STAS.
So are you saying that the SSPX practice went from conditionally re-ordaining novus ordo priests who requested it, to not or rarely conditionally re-ordaining novus ordo priests who request?

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2023, 09:29:56 PM »
The SSPX priests defer to the Novus Ordo and will not step on any feet and cross NO jurisdictional boundaries, as if the "anointing" by the doubtfully ordained NO priest is an acceptable replacement or something. Not the same SSPX I used to know.
What a ridiculous statement. SSPX Priests all over the place regularly make sick calls and give Extreme Unction to those in need of it. Sure, in this thread there are 2 cases where SSPX Priests supposedly did not go to give Extreme Unction when they could have, yet in at least one of these instances the person involved:

1) Wasn't a parishioner of the Priest in question

2) Wasn't even a traditional Catholic

3) Didn't personally request a visit from a Priest at all, from a traditional Priest in particular, or even more this SSPX Priest specifically

4) If the OP of this incident is full and complete, the person showed no signs of repentance, nor of a desire to receive Extreme Unction from ANYONE, let alone this particular SSPX Priest

Others in this thread have said the SSPX Priest in question had a duty in charity to this person. My answer to that: think about the number of people on whatever road you live on. How many of those people would fit the four descriptives I just listed? Probably everyone on your road except you and your family. Does any random SSPX Priest have some obligation in charity to everyone living on your road then? To everyone in the obituary column of your local newspaper? To every resident of the nearest nursing home?

The SSPX won't cross jurisdictional boundaries? Bishop Fellay just consecrated a large church in Mexico with no regard whatsoever to the "jurisdictional boundary" of the Novus Ordo Ordinary of the place. Read the public statement of the Novus Ordo Archbishop of Puebla if you don't believe me. Ask the Novus Ordo Archbishop of Puebla if he feels his feet got stepped on.


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Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2023, 12:05:37 AM »
So are you saying that the SSPX practice went from conditionally re-ordaining novus ordo priests who requested it, to not or rarely conditionally re-ordaining novus ordo priests who request?

What I'm saying is that I am personally aware of several cases from the late 1980s and early 1990s where no "investigation" was done before performing conditional ordinations.

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2023, 12:23:18 AM »
Was this a younger-generation priest, ordained, say within the last 15 years or so?  I've noticed a disgraceful lack of zeal for souls among many of them.  They are more concerned about organizing activities than in saving souls.
About 15 years out I would say, yes.  

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2023, 01:11:35 AM »
I do not agree. If that seems too legalistic, then so be it.
The Church wants souls to go to Heaven, Meg, not Hell. That is the Supreme Law of the Church. There is absolutely no law that trumps it. The whole of the Church's law is geared towards this end, and if ever there is a situation where it would not serve this end, it ought not to be followed. In cases of necessity, every priest has jurisdiction. The Church even wants a non-Catholic minister to come to the rescue in such cases if no Catholic minister can be found.