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Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2023, 05:37:37 PM »
I'm sorry, but traditional Priests can't simply drop whatever they're doing for their own chapel(s) and parishioners to go visit sick or dying people who:

1) aren't their parishioners
2) aren't even traditional
3) aren't in the immediate area

and

4) didn't personally ask for them in the first place.

It would be great if they could visit everybody, but there are roughly 100 SSPX Priests in the United States, and the United States is a very big country.

That might seem harsh, but that's reality. Please give your Priests a break. 

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2023, 06:24:57 PM »
I'm sorry, but traditional Priests can't simply drop whatever they're doing for their own chapel(s) and parishioners to go visit sick or dying people who:

1) aren't their parishioners
2) aren't even traditional
3) aren't in the immediate area

and

4) didn't personally ask for them in the first place.

It would be great if they could visit everybody, but there are roughly 100 SSPX Priests in the United States, and the United States is a very big country.

That might seem harsh, but that's reality. Please give your Priests a break.
Before vatican 2, parish priests were obliged by canon law to visit their sick parishioners and administer the last rites to the dying, in other words they were bound by justice. Due to the crisis in the Church, traditional priests are not parish priests, they have no jurisdiction obviously, so they aren't bound in justice to visit their sick parishioners, but they're bound by charity; the same would apply to people who aren't their parishioners.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2023, 07:10:03 PM »
Yes, happened to me in May 2021. Lapsed Catholic friend was on his deathbed after suffering from ALS. He had married a Protestant, but wavered between attending the Novus Ordo and Baptist services. He considered himself Catholic. He knew he was clueless. I tried for over a year to get him to go to Confession before he died. He wouldn't do it.

Seeing that he only had a few hours/days left, I got permission from the Baptist wife to get a Catholic priest to his house. I called my SSPX (mission) priest. It was a Sunday afternoon. He told me he was busy and to call a Novus Ordo "priest" instead.

The Novus Ordo "priest" came over. Prayed a short ecuмenical prayer and did a single anointing on the forehead (as I recall). There was no attempt to hear a confession or anything of that sort.

My friend died a few days later.

Well, the priest can't give him absolution anyway when he has shown absolutely no indication of wanting to go to Confession.  In fact, he resisted your requests to go to Confession, and it wasn't of his volition that the priest came in the first place.  Even had a Traditional priest arrived, he couldn't have given such a one absolution.

Offline Meg

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2023, 07:24:58 PM »
I'm sorry, but traditional Priests can't simply drop whatever they're doing for their own chapel(s) and parishioners to go visit sick or dying people who:

1) aren't their parishioners
2) aren't even traditional
3) aren't in the immediate area

and

4) didn't personally ask for them in the first place.

It would be great if they could visit everybody, but there are roughly 100 SSPX Priests in the United States, and the United States is a very big country.

That might seem harsh, but that's reality. Please give your Priests a break.

Very true, and it should be pointed out that SSPX priests do not have ordinary jurisdiction. I thought that most trads knew that - but evidently not. The way that supplied jurisdiction works is that a Catholic approaches the priest (who has supplied jurisdiction) for the sacraments. The priest does not approach a stranger (who doesn't attend an SSPX chapel) to administer the sacraments. The SSPX is an easy target these days.

Offline Meg

Re: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2023, 07:46:24 PM »
Has anyone ever called the SSPX asking for a priest to come to give someone Extreme Unction and they instead recommended a local novus ordo priest?

This just happened yesterday in the case of my calling the SSPX VA Seminary asking for a priest to come to see my father in the hospital.

I knew that they had been getting more friendly with the local novus ordo priests but this blew my mind.

Why didn't you ask a sedevacantist priest to help your father?