Author Topic: SSPX Referrals for novus ordo priests (Read 12405 times)

Meg · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2023, 10:09:55 AM »

Quote from: CathSarto on May 24, 2023, 09:55:18 AM

I think the faithful deserve an explanation of their new policy of deferring to the novus ordo for administering sacraments. And if they do believe that all novus ordo priests and sacraments are valid then they have absolutely no business doing what they are doing. It completely undermines the state of necessity that was proclaimed by the Archbishop.

So the state of necessity has to do with the question of the validity of the sacraments? Is that why +ABL started the SSPX, in your view? Did he really start the SSPX because he believed the NO sacraments to be invalid?

Texana · « **Reply #26 on:** May 24, 2023, 10:13:34 AM »

Quote from: AMDGJMJ on May 24, 2023, 06:34:14 AM

Wow... That is terrible... Thank you for sharing your story!

My parents allowed us to host the mission chapel here in Front Royal for a few months at their farm for a small fee to make it legal and which we ourselves paid during COVID when our normal chapel (St. Athanasius) was closed down. If we hadn't done that the SSPX chapel here might not have the larger mission chapel they have now... So, one might think that the SSPX would help at least in return for that. But no... Instead they said "We would come if there wasn't a novus priest around to do it. They are valid and in causes of near death even an Eastern Orthodox priest can help." 🤦

I am just grateful that we managed to get in contact with Father Waters from York, PA. He dropped everything and left immediately to make the 3 hour drive one way during rush hour traffic.

I only I only wish I had thought to call him first instead of taking hours to try and arrange something with the SSPX... In the future he will be the person I call when someone I know in the area needs a priest.

Dear AMDGJMJ
Thank God for Fr. Waters! He sounds like Fr. James Haynos, ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre, whose sole mission is the salvation of souls. He visited an older novus ordo couple on his way back to his priory monthly until he was transferred. Because of the declining health status of the husband, Fr made sure to administer the sacrament of Extreme Unction for him. The man died shortly after Fr. Haynos left his assignment. Another man had fallen away from the Church and was very near death. Fr. Haynos stayed nearby for three days bringing him back to the Faith. That man received all the sacraments before his death. The joy we could see on Fr.'s face telling us about it showed why he persevered. Being in the presence of a holy priest who is a true missionary of Our Lord is humbling. We thank God for giving us the many blessings we received learning about our Roman Catholic Faith, and learning what the life of a happy Roman Catholic priest really is like.

Caring for and taking care of your parents at the end of their lives is a true blessing. It can be very stressful, very tiring, but it is a unique opportunity to care for them just a little while the way they care for their children for a lifetime. God bless you and your family--still praying!

Vanguard · « **Reply #27 on:** May 24, 2023, 01:37:26 PM »

I think the problem with “doubtful orders” is terrible. The SSPX should continue to ordain anyone from the NO. I was in the same boat trying to get a priest to see a dying relatives. I actually have had fantastic success with all of the SSPX priests I have asked. They do want the person to be receptive of their presence, but all of them have responded. Unfortunately, there wasn’t a priest in close proximity to one of my relatives. I even contacted a sedevacantist priest who said no. However, I ended up getting a FSSP priest to help and was grateful for his support. I hope at least my relative was able to ask forgiveness for his sins, even if they were not able to be forgiven by the priest , since he had doubtful orders imo. Please NO priests, try to receive conditional orders if possible. I am sure it won’t hurt, and will actually allow the Church to be healed.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #28 on:** May 24, 2023, 01:40:02 PM »

Quote from: Meg on May 24, 2023, 09:18:03 AM

No, I don't think so. But why complain about the SSPX, when a sedevacantist priest would not be willing either to help your father. You are sedevacantist, correct?

If Father Waters had not been able to make it, my next step was going to be to contact Father McMahon from NY who worked with my old confessor Father Collins both of whom are/were sedevacantists. He has brought the last Sacraments to many people in places where others would not.

I know of a specific case in the fast few years where Father McMahon flew down to Florida to give last rites to someone whom the SSPX refused to go see because the person wasn't in their parish (even though only a couple hours away from). So, in actuality some sedevacantist priests seem to be more willing to go the extra mile to help those dying more than the SSPX. I did not call him though because he is much further away and wanted to try and have a priest come for whom it might be less inconvenient.

As to whether I hold the sedevacantist position that is irrelevant. I was trying to find any surly validly ordained Catholic priest who was willing to help. I personally believe that the novus ordinations are questionable but apparently the SSPX does not anymore.

AMDGJMJ · « **Reply #29 on:** May 24, 2023, 01:41:52 PM »

Quote from: CathSarto on May 24, 2023, 09:55:18 AM

This is very troubling. Only four years ago a priest from the Va seminary came to visit my father, who was a non-practicing novus ordo Catholic, at the hospital upon my request. He was not in danger of dying, but old and had just had major surgery so I felt it was a crucial time for him to be guided back to the Church before it was too late.
My understanding at the time was that you could rely on an SSPX priest to come when called without hesitation or conditions, and that was exactly what occurred.

Now the policy seems to have changed, perhaps in reaction to Burbidge (Arlington diocese bishop) making such a big deal about the Society's presence in Front Royal. If this is the case, we are in trouble. Since when does the Society worry about what the novus ordo prelates say about them? Do they only abide by the rules when called out on them?

I think the faithful deserve an explanation of their new policy of deferring to the novus ordo for administering sacraments. And if they do believe that all novus ordo priests and sacraments are valid then they have absolutely no business doing what they are doing. It completely undermines the state of necessity that was proclaimed by the Archbishop.

Well said!

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