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Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
« on: May 27, 2023, 01:32:13 PM »
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  • It was only after posting this subject I found it had already been put up. that said, this is so special it deserves a second read.

    Dear Friends of the Kolbe Center,

    Glory to Jesus Christ!

    In our last newsletter, we recalled that the Catholics of the age of the Apostles and Church Fathers transformed a pagan world into a vibrant Catholic civilization primarily in three ways: Through their supernatural Faith, through their Supernatural Charity, and through the miracles God worked through them. It is no coincidence, then, that at almost the same time that our last newsletter appeared, we received word that Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB, the foundress of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles, who died four years ago, was recently found to be incorrupt. According to a recent report by the Catholic News Agency:
    Known for her devotion to the Traditional Latin Mass and her faithfulness to Benedictine contemplation and the Liturgy of the Hours, she died at age 95 on May 29, 2019, on the vigil of the solemnity of the Ascension.
    Roughly four years later, on the solemnity of the Ascension in the Latin rite, the abbess and sisters decided to move her body to a final resting place inside their monastery chapel, a long-standing custom for founders and foundresses.

    Expecting to find bones, the Benedictine Sisters instead unearthed a coffin with an apparently intact body, even though the body was not embalmed and the wooden coffin had a crack down the middle that let in moisture and dirt for an unknown length of time during those four years.

    “We think she is the first African American woman to be found incorrupt,” the current abbess of the community, Mother Cecilia, OSB, told EWTN’s ACI Group on Saturday. As the head of the monastery, it was her role to examine what was in the coffin first.



    Incorrupt Body of Sister Wilhelmina, the Foundress of the Benedictines of Mary
    The body was covered in a layer of mold that had grown due to the high levels of condensation within the cracked coffin. Despite the dampness, little of her body and nothing of her habit disintegrated during the four years.
    The shock was instant for the community who had gathered to exhume her.

    “I thought I saw a completely full, intact foot and I said, ‘I didn’t just see that,’” the abbess said. “So I looked again more carefully.”

    After she looked again, she screamed aloud, “I see her foot!” and the community, she said, “just cheered.”
    “I mean there was just this sense that the Lord was doing this,” she said. “Right now we need hope. We need it. Our Lord knows that. And she was such a testament to hope. And faith. And trust.”

    The Catholic Church has a long-standing tradition of so-called “incorruptible saints,” more than a hundred of whom have been beatified or canonized. The saints are called incorruptible because years after their death parts of or even the entirety of their bodies are immune to the natural process of decay. Even with modern embalming techniques, bodies are subject to natural processes of decomposition.

    According to Catholic tradition, incorruptible saints give witness to the truth of the resurrection of the body and the life that is to come. The lack of decay is also seen as a sign of holiness: a life of grace lived so closely to Christ that sin with its corruption does not proceed in typical fashion but is miraculously held at bay.


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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #1 on: May 27, 2023, 03:48:41 PM »
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  • But... how could she be a saint?
    The Abbess wasn't SSPX and she was a geo-centerist?


    Miracles: Signs of God’s Blessing

    The miraculous preservation of Sister Wilhelmina’s mortal remains has a special significance for our Kolbe family. This is because the congregation of the Benedictines of Mary has constantly supported the mission of the Kolbe Center with their prayers, ever since we first became acquainted with each other, soon after the congregation moved to Missouri. I have been privileged to make many presentations to the Benedictines of Mary, both in their Abbey in Gower and in their new foundation in Ava, Missouri, where one of our daughters is a postulant. Mother Abbess Cecilia has even granted the Kolbe Center permission to use the sisters’ magnificent music to accompany our new DVD series “How the World Was Made in Six Days,” the first DVD of which, Day One, begins and ends with their heavenly singing.   We see in God’s miraculous preservation of Sister Wilhelmina a sign of His blessing upon her congregation’s fervent faith in the traditional Catholic doctrine of creation and on the charity that flows from that faith in God’s special love for mankind.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #2 on: May 27, 2023, 07:03:05 PM »
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  • It was only after posting this subject I found it had already been put up. that said, this is so special it deserves a second read.

    Dear Friends of the Kolbe Center,

    Glory to Jesus Christ!

    In our last newsletter, we recalled that the Catholics of the age of the Apostles and Church Fathers transformed a pagan world into a vibrant Catholic civilization primarily in three ways: Through their supernatural Faith, through their Supernatural Charity, and through the miracles God worked through them. It is no coincidence, then, that at almost the same time that our last newsletter appeared, we received word that Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB, the foundress of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles, who died four years ago, was recently found to be incorrupt. According to a recent report by the Catholic News Agency:
    Known for her devotion to the Traditional Latin Mass and her faithfulness to Benedictine contemplation and the Liturgy of the Hours, she died at age 95 on May 29, 2019, on the vigil of the solemnity of the Ascension.
    Roughly four years later, on the solemnity of the Ascension in the Latin rite, the abbess and sisters decided to move her body to a final resting place inside their monastery chapel, a long-standing custom for founders and foundresses.

    Expecting to find bones, the Benedictine Sisters instead unearthed a coffin with an apparently intact body, even though the body was not embalmed and the wooden coffin had a crack down the middle that let in moisture and dirt for an unknown length of time during those four years.

    “We think she is the first African American woman to be found incorrupt,” the current abbess of the community, Mother Cecilia, OSB, told EWTN’s ACI Group on Saturday. As the head of the monastery, it was her role to examine what was in the coffin first.



    Incorrupt Body of Sister Wilhelmina, the Foundress of the Benedictines of Mary
    The body was covered in a layer of mold that had grown due to the high levels of condensation within the cracked coffin. Despite the dampness, little of her body and nothing of her habit disintegrated during the four years.
    The shock was instant for the community who had gathered to exhume her.

    “I thought I saw a completely full, intact foot and I said, ‘I didn’t just see that,’” the abbess said. “So I looked again more carefully.”

    After she looked again, she screamed aloud, “I see her foot!” and the community, she said, “just cheered.”
    “I mean there was just this sense that the Lord was doing this,” she said. “Right now we need hope. We need it. Our Lord knows that. And she was such a testament to hope. And faith. And trust.”

    The Catholic Church has a long-standing tradition of so-called “incorruptible saints,” more than a hundred of whom have been beatified or canonized. The saints are called incorruptible because years after their death parts of or even the entirety of their bodies are immune to the natural process of decay. Even with modern embalming techniques, bodies are subject to natural processes of decomposition.

    According to Catholic tradition, incorruptible saints give witness to the truth of the resurrection of the body and the life that is to come. The lack of decay is also seen as a sign of holiness: a life of grace lived so closely to Christ that sin with its corruption does not proceed in typical fashion but is miraculously held at bay.

    Thank you, Cassini! This article brings out more facts. 

    Now I understand better the chronology. She passed on the Vigil of the Ascension, and was exhumed on the Feast Day itself. Extremely interesting!!!

    We also have eyewitness reportage of the presence of mold and moisture in the grave. 

    I sincerely hope that more facts will be made public soon. 

    Lastly what the Abbess said rings so very true: "Right now we need hope. We need it. Our Lord knows that. And she was such a testament to hope. And faith. And trust.”

    My thoughts exactly. And, though this is very far from proven, I must say it has given me much joy, much consolation, many smiles, and renewed hope. 

    Praised be our Lord Jesus Christ, Now and Forever. 

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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #3 on: May 27, 2023, 11:32:49 PM »
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  • Even with modern embalming techniques, bodies are subject to natural processes of decomposition.

    Unearthed in 1895, because the corner had injected him with arsenic ... still perfectly preserved.  Antibiotics could also have the same effect.  In fact, a layer of mold on the body is a common finding when the body had been embalmed.





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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #4 on: May 27, 2023, 11:39:39 PM »
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  • The body was covered in a layer of mold that had grown due to the high levels of condensation within the cracked coffin. Despite the dampness, little of her body and nothing of her habit disintegrated during the four years.
    The shock was instant for the community who had gathered to exhume her.

    I already went through this on the other thread.  There could be myriad causes ...

    1) Was she embalmed (even if not completely, perhaps partially) whether with or without the knowledge of the other sisters there?
    2) Was she on antibiotics or other medications before she passed away?
    3) Was the soil of lower acidity?
    4) Was the coffin made of cedar wood, which repels insects?
    5) We don't know how long the coffin had been broken open.
    6) Did the inner fabric lining of the coffin wisk moisture away from the body, allowing it to dry out and mummify?

    Only 4 years had passed, and rate of decay can vary due to many different factors, normally requiring up to 10 years, but embalmed bodies or those subject to various other conditions (such as listed above) can last many decades.

    This is why a full investigation of all such claims is required by the Church before people claim miracles.  Many miracles have been later debunked as due to natural causes or, in some cases, diabolical intervention.


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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #5 on: May 27, 2023, 11:47:17 PM »
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  • A reminder to all that incorruptibility is not counted as a miracle in the recognition of a saint.

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/xin-zhui-lady-dai

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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #6 on: May 27, 2023, 11:52:38 PM »
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  • https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/254434/morticians-sister-wilhelmina-lancaster-preserved-body
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    The local ordinary, Bishop Vann Johnston of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph, visited the monastery Monday to see Sister Wilhelmina’s remains. Johnston, who has communicated with Church authorities in Rome about the situation, issued a statement the same day, saying that a “thorough investigation” was needed to answer “important questions” raised by the state of her body.

    While a Novus Ordo prelate, this does epitomize the attitude of the Church, not jumping to conclusions.

    more from above ...
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    CNA asked Hess and another expert about the possibility that the body might have been preserved through a chemical process called “grave wax.”

    “Grave wax” is an uncommonly seen but natural phenomenon that encases a corpse or parts of a body in a shell of soap-like fatty tissue, called adipocere, which slows or stops the normal decomposition process, which can preserve the human remains for many years — even centuries.

    Two so-called “soap mummies” — dubbed “Soap Lady” and “Soap Man” — were exhumed in 1875 during digging for the foundation of a train depot in downtown Philadelphia decades after they died.

    This unusual preservation occurred because water seeped into the casket and brought alkaline soil with it, turning the fats in his body to soap through a type of hydrolysis known as saponification,” according to the Smithsonian Institution, which has kept the man’s remains in climate-controlled storage in the Smithsonian’s Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C. The woman’s remains are on exhibit in Philadelphia’s Mütter Museum.

    Hess said that grave wax typically only materializes in different parts of the body, but he said it could cover the entire body.

    Notice that grave wax is caused by water seeping into the casket and bringing alkaline soil in with it, so one of the first things that would have to be done would be to test the alkalinity (or acidity) of the soil.  We know what the coffin had cracked and the water and soil did seep into it.

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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #7 on: May 28, 2023, 09:10:36 AM »
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  • It was only after posting this subject I found it had already been put up. that said, this is so special it deserves a second read.

    Dear Friends of the Kolbe Center,

    Glory to Jesus Christ!

    In our last newsletter, we recalled that the Catholics of the age of the Apostles and Church Fathers transformed a pagan world into a vibrant Catholic civilization primarily in three ways: Through their supernatural Faith, through their Supernatural Charity, and through the miracles God worked through them. It is no coincidence, then, that at almost the same time that our last newsletter appeared, we received word that Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB, the foundress of the Benedictines of Mary, Queen of Apostles, who died four years ago, was recently found to be incorrupt. According to a recent report by the Catholic News Agency:
    Known for her devotion to the Traditional Latin Mass and her faithfulness to Benedictine contemplation and the Liturgy of the Hours, she died at age 95 on May 29, 2019, on the vigil of the solemnity of the Ascension.
    Roughly four years later, on the solemnity of the Ascension in the Latin rite, the abbess and sisters decided to move her body to a final resting place inside their monastery chapel, a long-standing custom for founders and foundresses.

    Expecting to find bones, the Benedictine Sisters instead unearthed a coffin with an apparently intact body, even though the body was not embalmed and the wooden coffin had a crack down the middle that let in moisture and dirt for an unknown length of time during those four years.

    “We think she is the first African American woman to be found incorrupt,” the current abbess of the community, Mother Cecilia, OSB, told EWTN’s ACI Group on Saturday. As the head of the monastery, it was her role to examine what was in the coffin first.



    Incorrupt Body of Sister Wilhelmina, the Foundress of the Benedictines of Mary
    The body was covered in a layer of mold that had grown due to the high levels of condensation within the cracked coffin. Despite the dampness, little of her body and nothing of her habit disintegrated during the four years.
    The shock was instant for the community who had gathered to exhume her.

    “I thought I saw a completely full, intact foot and I said, ‘I didn’t just see that,’” the abbess said. “So I looked again more carefully.”

    After she looked again, she screamed aloud, “I see her foot!” and the community, she said, “just cheered.”
    “I mean there was just this sense that the Lord was doing this,” she said. “Right now we need hope. We need it. Our Lord knows that. And she was such a testament to hope. And faith. And trust.”

    The Catholic Church has a long-standing tradition of so-called “incorruptible saints,” more than a hundred of whom have been beatified or canonized. The saints are called incorruptible because years after their death parts of or even the entirety of their bodies are immune to the natural process of decay. Even with modern embalming techniques, bodies are subject to natural processes of decomposition.

    According to Catholic tradition, incorruptible saints give witness to the truth of the resurrection of the body and the life that is to come. The lack of decay is also seen as a sign of holiness: a life of grace lived so closely to Christ that sin with its corruption does not proceed in typical fashion but is miraculously held at bay.

    Thank you for posting this, Cassini. And here was I thinking, before seeing this story, that there were no traditional Catholic saints. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #8 on: May 28, 2023, 10:13:00 AM »
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  • I already went through this on the other thread.  There could be myriad causes ...

    1) Was she embalmed (even if not completely, perhaps partially) whether with or without the knowledge of the other sisters there?
    2) Was she on antibiotics or other medications before she passed away?
    3) Was the soil of lower acidity?
    4) Was the coffin made of cedar wood, which repels insects?
    5) We don't know how long the coffin had been broken open.
    6) Did the inner fabric lining of the coffin wisk moisture away from the body, allowing it to dry out and mummify?

    Only 4 years had passed, and rate of decay can vary due to many different factors, normally requiring up to 10 years, but embalmed bodies or those subject to various other conditions (such as listed above) can last many decades.

    This is why a full investigation of all such claims is required by the Church before people claim miracles.  Many miracles have been later debunked as due to natural causes or, in some cases, diabolical intervention.

    I wouldn't have thought of the antibiotics and medication in general, but that very well could have some sort of effect.  (It might vary with the metabolism of every individual.)  Also, there are all the preservatives and other additives that are in food nowadays.  I have heard that bodies are not decaying the way they used to.  Heaven only knows what all this stuff is doing to us.  You need look no further than drastically decreasing testosterone levels in men.

    These are all things that should be looked at, in determining whether incorruptibility is truly miraculous, or whether there could be some sort of natural reason, even if an unusual one.

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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #9 on: May 28, 2023, 11:45:36 AM »
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  • I wouldn't have thought of the antibiotics and medication in general, but that very well could have some sort of effect.  (It might vary with the metabolism of every individual.)  Also, there are all the preservatives and other additives that are in food nowadays.  I have heard that bodies are not decaying the way they used to.  Heaven only knows what all this stuff is doing to us.  You need look no further than drastically decreasing testosterone levels in men.

    These are all things that should be looked at, in determining whether incorruptibility is truly miraculous, or whether there could be some sort of natural reason, even if an unusual one.

    I didn't consider the preservatives, but that's also an interesting angle.  You see docuмented stories of people having a McDonald's hamburger stashed away in a coat pocket for a decade and finding a practically pristine "hamburger".

    https://www.delish.com/food-news/a33833639/mcdonalds-burger-fries-24-years-old/

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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #10 on: May 28, 2023, 07:16:58 PM »
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  • I have spoken to someone who was at the funeral of Sr. Wilhemena, in which she was canonized novus ordo style, and at the burial there was apparently a relative of the sister (he was the only lay black person there) who appeared to be Muslim and was carrying a duffle bag. When the body was lowered into the ground, the man took off his shoes and was then removing items from the duffle bag to put into grave.  The person who witnessed this then gathered her children and left the burial site as to not scandalize them further.  

    The same witness on a previous occasion found pamphlets in the vestibule of the chapel that had quotes from the Koran in them.

    I am not sure what is going on in Gower, but there is definitely something wrong, perhaps diabolical. 


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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #11 on: May 28, 2023, 07:23:05 PM »
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  • I have spoken to someone who was at the funeral of Sr. Wilhemena, in which she was canonized novus ordo style, and at the burial there was apparently a relative of the sister (he was the only lay black person there) who appeared to be Muslim and was carrying a duffle bag. When the body was lowered into the ground, the man took off his shoes and was then removing items from the duffle bag to put into grave.  The person who witnessed this then gathered her children and left the burial site as to not scandalize them further. 

    The same witness on a previous occasion found pamphlets in the vestibule of the chapel that had quotes from the Koran in them.

    I am not sure what is going on in Gower, but there is definitely something wrong, perhaps diabolical.
    Many black Americans embrace Islam in one form or another.  She very well could have had Muslim relatives.  It's not necessarily any reflection on the good Sister.  You can't help what your family does.

    Can't account for the Koran verses in the vestibule.  Perhaps Muslims visited and left them without permission.

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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #12 on: May 28, 2023, 09:41:18 PM »
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  • Unearthed in 1895, because the corner had injected him with arsenic ... still perfectly preserved.  Antibiotics could also have the same effect.  In fact, a layer of mold on the body is a common finding when the body had been embalmed.





    John Wilkes Booth was poisoned with arsenic laced lemonade by Jesse James because he couldn't keep masonic secrets.

    Henry Makow link

    His body was put
    on exposition at Circus shows until it disappeared in 1938.





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    Re: Sister Wilhelmina Lancaster, OSB's body found incorrupt
    « Reply #13 on: May 28, 2023, 10:23:12 PM »
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  • I didn't consider the preservatives, but that's also an interesting angle.  You see docuмented stories of people having a McDonald's hamburger stashed away in a coat pocket for a decade and finding a practically pristine "hamburger".

    https://www.delish.com/food-news/a33833639/mcdonalds-burger-fries-24-years-old/
    So maybe the good Sister was a frequent diner at McDonald's.  (I can't eat that crap anymore, it all tastes alike.  Their fish sandwich is the best thing they serve, in fact, I had one yesterday while my son and I were out on the town.)

    Seriously, though, preservatives being ingested frequently, and accuмulating in one's system over the years, could have that effect.  Most people are embalmed, so the effect of these would be transparent, but for those who are not embalmed, it would be interesting to know if this phenomenon is seen in other cases.  But people, embalmed or otherwise, are usually not exhumed.  It's usually connected to some kind of medical inquest.)