Author Topic: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews  (Read 550 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Jaynek

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1732
  • Reputation: +534/-271
  • Gender: Female
Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
« on: November 29, 2017, 03:27:57 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Does anyone know where I can find traditional prayers for the conversion of Jews?  There is the one from the Good Friday liturgy and I found this one online:

    Quote
    Let us pray. O God, Who dost manifest Thy mercy and compassion towards all peoples, have mercy upon the Jewish race, once Thy Chosen People. Thou didst select them alone out of all the nations of the world to be the custodians of Thy sacred teachings. From them Thou didst raise up Prophets and Patriarchs to announce the coming of the Redeemer. Thou didst will that Thine only Son, Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior, should be a Jew according to the flesh, born of a Jewish maiden in the Land of Promise. Listen to the prayers we offer Thee today for the conversion of the Jewish people. Grant that they may come safely to a knowledge and love of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Messiah foretold by their Prophets, and that they may walk with us in the way of salvation.  Amen.

    Also, is there a Saint who is the Patron of conversions of Jews?  I would have guessed that it is St. Vincent Ferrer since he is famous for many conversions but I cannot find anything to say that he is.  Same with St. Paul of Tarsus.  
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

    Offline Miseremini

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1195
    • Reputation: +817/-37
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 06:21:25 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I would have thought St. Peter or any of the apostles.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



    Offline MyrnaM

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5755
    • Reputation: +3320/-250
    • Gender: Female
      • Myforever.blog/blog
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 10:39:11 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • This is not, in particular, a prayer for the Jews but it could be.  It is the Christmas novena that starts Nov. 30


    Beginning on St. Andrew the Apostle’s feast day, November 30, the
    “Hail and blessed be prayer” is to be recited fifteen times a day until Christmas.


    Hail and blessed be the hour and moment In which the Son of God was born of the purest Virgin Mary, at midnight, in Bethlehem, in the piercing cold. In that hour vouchsafe, I beseech Thee, O my God, to hear my prayer and grant my desires,
    [here mention your request]
    Through the merits of Our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of His blessed Mother. Amen.


    Offline poche

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 12512
    • Reputation: +370/-560
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 02:16:04 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I will join you
    :pray: :pray: :pray:

    Offline Nadir

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4519
    • Reputation: +2593/-60
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 03:34:32 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Jayne, we always dedicate the fifth decade of our Rosary to the conversion of the Jews.

    Do you know of the conversion of Alphonse Ratisbonne. 
    http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/c021rpRatisbonne02.html

    In this beautiful article you read that there was a religious congregation founded by him to convert the Jews. Tragically it seems the sisters have gone down the plug hole and no longer have that mission, apparently because the Jews suffered too much in WW2 to bother them with questions of conversion. 


    Offline budDude

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 66
    • Reputation: +14/-26
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 07:08:50 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!2
  • Does anyone know where I can find traditional prayers for the conversion of Jews?  There is the one from the Good Friday liturgy and I found this one online:

    Also, is there a Saint who is the Patron of conversions of Jews?  I would have guessed that it is St. Vincent Ferrer since he is famous for many conversions but I cannot find anything to say that he is.  Same with St. Paul of Tarsus.  
    Why this?
    Have you learned nothing from history??
    Conversion got us into the mess we are in. 
    Read The Plot Against The Church by Pinay.  Free and online. 
    Forced conversions backfired time and again. It's inviting traitors into your camp. 
    Segregation. 

    Offline Jaynek

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1732
    • Reputation: +534/-271
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 07:33:05 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Why this?
    Have you learned nothing from history??
    Conversion got us into the mess we are in.
    Read The Plot Against The Church by Pinay.  Free and online.
    Forced conversions backfired time and again. It's inviting traitors into your camp.
    Segregation.
    One does not pray for forced conversions but for sincere conversions of the heart.

    It is rather frustrating to me that praying for the conversion of Jews gets discussed so little among trads.  It's not like people influenced by the Novus Ordo are going to do it.  Most of them do not even seem to understand that it is necessary for salvation.  The heresy that Jews can be saved by being good Jews is widespread.

    I see post after post among trads about how evil Jews are.  While I do not dispute there is usually a good basis for these claims, I wish that some part of the time and energy put into these posts went into praying for conversions and promoting such prayers.

    I was very encouraged and thankful to see Nadir's post about praying for conversions.  Perhaps others are doing similar things and not mentioning it.

    Both my parents died earlier this year.  They were both Jews and I am left with no real hope for them.  I see the same fate awaiting my siblings and cousins.  I have understood that it is important to pray for conversion of Jews since I first started learning about traditional Catholcism but now it has gotten personal and urgent.
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

    Offline Jaynek

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1732
    • Reputation: +534/-271
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 08:32:35 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Jayne, we always dedicate the fifth decade of our Rosary to the conversion of the Jews.

    Do you know of the conversion of Alphonse Ratisbonne.
    http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/c021rpRatisbonne02.html

    In this beautiful article you read that there was a religious congregation founded by him to convert the Jews. Tragically it seems the sisters have gone down the plug hole and no longer have that mission, apparently because the Jews suffered too much in WW2 to bother them with questions of conversion.
    Thank you very much for your prayers.

    I had heard of Alphonse Ratisbonne before but not read the story with so much detail.  It is very moving.  Thanks for posting the link.
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is


    Offline josefamenendez

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 333
    • Reputation: +204/-13
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 09:11:48 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I pray for the conversion of the Jews every night. I think it must happen with the Consecration of Russia.
    But we are also to note what Jesus said in the Apocalypse. Revelation 3:9
    "Beware those who call themselves Jews but are not". 
    This may be a reference to the Khazarians who call themselves Jews. ( maybe they will never convert.)
    I don't know.

    Offline budDude

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 66
    • Reputation: +14/-26
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #9 on: November 30, 2017, 03:59:50 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I pray for the conversion of the Jews every night. I think it must happen with the Consecration of Russia.
    But we are also to note what Jesus said in the Apocalypse. Revelation 3:9
    "Beware those who call themselves Jews but are not".
    This may be a reference to the Khazarians who call themselves Jews. ( maybe they will never convert.)
    I don't know.
    Russia is More Christian than the West. And was prior to and post Bolshevik Revolution.
    Ukraine and the Baltics had both traditional Catholic and Orthodoxy which was omnipresent.

    Offline budDude

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 66
    • Reputation: +14/-26
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #10 on: November 30, 2017, 04:01:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
  • One does not pray for forced conversions but for sincere conversions of the heart.

    It is rather frustrating to me that praying for the conversion of Jews gets discussed so little among trads.  It's not like people influenced by the Novus Ordo are going to do it.  Most of them do not even seem to understand that it is necessary for salvation.  The heresy that Jews can be saved by being good Jews is widespread.

    I see post after post among trads about how evil Jews are.  While I do not dispute there is usually a good basis for these claims, I wish that some part of the time and energy put into these posts went into praying for conversions and promoting such prayers.

    I was very encouraged and thankful to see Nadir's post about praying for conversions.  Perhaps others are doing similar things and not mentioning it.

    Both my parents died earlier this year.  They were both Jews and I am left with no real hope for them.  I see the same fate awaiting my siblings and cousins.  I have understood that it is important to pray for conversion of Jews since I first started learning about traditional Catholcism but now it has gotten personal and urgent.
    We are at war with them.....I will not pray for them.  They have literally destroyed and are destroying our world.


    Offline budDude

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 66
    • Reputation: +14/-26
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #11 on: November 30, 2017, 04:03:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Crucifiers of Christ ought to be held in continual subjection. ~ Pope Innocent III


    The Gentiles ... have attained to justice, even to the justice is of the faith. But Israel ... has not come unto the law of justice. Why so? Because they sought it not by faith... For they stumbled at the Stumbling Stone.
    ~ Romans ix.30-32


    Many shall come from the East and West and sit down with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven, but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    ~ St. Matthew viii.11-12


    The Jewish people fell from the heights because of their faithlessness and condemned their Redeemer to a shameful death. Their godlessness has assumed such forms that, for the salvation of our own people, it becomes necessary to prevent their disease. Besides usury, through which Jews everywhere have sucked dry the property of impoverished Christians, they are accomplices of thieves and robbers; and the most damaging aspect of the matter is that they allure the unsuspecting through magical incantations, superstition, and witchcraft to the Synagogue of Satan and boast of being able to predict the future. We have carefully investigated how this revolting sect abuses the name of Christ and how harmful they are to those whose life is threatened by their deceit. On account of these and other serious matters, and because of the gravity of their crimes which increase day to day more and more, We order that, within 90 days, all Jews in our entire earthly realm of justice -- in all towns, districts, and places -- must depart these regions.
    ~ Pope St. Pius V (From his Bull, "The Jewish Race," Feb.26, 1569; PAC, p.648).



    “To judaize, namely to observe Saturday, or other Jewish ceremonies, is mortal [sin]: because that pertains to the superstition of a false divine cult, according to Cajetan, in his summa. If however one observes Saturday, not for the purposes of a Jewish rite, but for some other pious reason, such as to venerate the Blessed Virgin Mary, he would not sin mortally.
    To converse with Jews is forbidden at Canon Law, in many places in the capitular De Judaeis etc. 28 q. 1 Capitular Nullus, etc and all of them regarding assiduous, and familiar conversation, due to the danger of subversion, and especially in ten cases is it forbidden:
    First, to live with them;
    Second, to eat with them;
    Third, to bathe with them;
    Fourth, to call upon them for medical care;
    Fifth, to accept their medicine;
    Sixth, to feed their children in their houses;
    Seven, to serve them, as employees;
    Eight, to be their slaves;
    Nine, for them to hold public office amongst Christians;
    Ten, to eat their azyme [matzo]. To tolerate them in public office is mortal, because this disparages the dignity of the Christian Faith, and for that reason is it forbidden.
    The same, because this would cause too great a familiarity, and consequently a danger of subversion, as supra. I say the same for the consumption of their azyme. To do all of that is mortal. To eat food with them when one has a choice is never permitted, apart from extreme necessity.”
    ~ Fra Bartolomeo Fumo, O.P., Inquisitor General for the Duchies of Parma and Piacenza, +1542 A.D. (Citation from the medieval Inquistor’s manual explaining what can and cannot be done vis-à-vis Jews, based on the canonical legislation promulgated by Pope Gregory IX in A.D. 1234, in the capitular “De Judaeis” [Of the Jews].)

    Offline Jaynek

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1732
    • Reputation: +534/-271
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #12 on: November 30, 2017, 04:12:11 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • We are at war with them.....I will not pray for them.  They have literally destroyed and are destroying our world.
    Don't you think that these words of Our Lord apply?

     [43] You have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy. [44] But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you: [45] That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust. [46] For if you love them that love you, what reward shall you have? do not even the publicans this? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you more? do not also the heathens this? [48] Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

    Offline Jaynek

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1732
    • Reputation: +534/-271
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #13 on: November 30, 2017, 04:26:26 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Many shall come from the East and West and sit down with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven, but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
    ~ St. Matthew viii.11-12
    I am not quite sure what point you are making with any of these quotes, but I'll just ask about this one.  Are you saying that it is better for Jews to go to hell than to convert and find salvation?
    Most sweet Jesus, whose overflowing charity for men is requited by so much forgetfulness, negligence and contempt, behold us prostrate before you, eager to repair by a special act of homage the cruel indifference and injuries to which your loving Heart is

    Offline budDude

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 66
    • Reputation: +14/-26
    Re: Seeking Prayers for the Conversion of Jews
    « Reply #14 on: November 30, 2017, 05:23:03 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!2
  • Don't you think that these words of Our Lord apply?

    [43] You have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy. [44] But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you: [45] That you may be the children of your Father who is in heaven, who maketh his sun to rise upon the good, and bad, and raineth upon the just and the unjust. [46] For if you love them that love you, what reward shall you have? do not even the publicans this? [47] And if you salute your brethren only, what do you more? do not also the heathens this? [48] Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.
    We are at war.   It is as it was in Europe 1300 years ago when they were financing Muslim war parties into Europe, in addition to all of the other subversion and social corrosion they are causing...
    I hope that answers your question.

     

    Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16