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Offline SimpleMan

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Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
« on: December 21, 2021, 08:35:37 PM »
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    • I was absent-mindedly kind of half-watching SNL this evening, and all of a sudden I looked up and saw this:



    Pretty much identical to this:

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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #1 on: December 21, 2021, 08:55:12 PM »
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    • Sure looks like it
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #2 on: December 21, 2021, 09:49:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 21, 2021, 08:55:12 PM
    Sure looks like it
    I looked at many antique Bibles on Google, and the Haydock is the only one that looks anything like that.

    They have to get all those props from someplace.  Perhaps a used book dealer in Manhattan had this, or they could even have ordered it on eBay.

    If you will ever notice, Catholicism in movies and other video productions almost always tends to display imagery of the more traditional variety, precisely because it calls attention to itself and can't be mistaken for anything else.  A nun wearing secular clothes isn't obviously a nun.  A nun in full habit could not possibly be anything else.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #3 on: December 21, 2021, 09:53:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on December 21, 2021, 09:49:39 PM
    I looked at many antique Bibles on Google, and the Haydock is the only one that looks anything like that.

    They have to get all those props from someplace.  Perhaps a used book dealer in Manhattan had this, or they could even have ordered it on eBay.

    If you will ever notice, Catholicism in movies and other video productions almost always tends to display imagery of the more traditional variety, precisely because it calls attention to itself and can't be mistaken for anything else.  A nun wearing secular clothes isn't obviously a nun.  A nun in full habit could not possibly be anything else.
    It's kind of the same phenomenon where you see Catholic religious in movies depicted on the more conservative NO-traditional end of things rather than the Pastor Bob of the Novus Ordo Mass Center that is widespread.

    The Conjuring films come to mind in this regard (which I honestly really enjoy), but I also know that the Warrens were more traddies than NO in reality anyway.
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    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #4 on: December 21, 2021, 09:56:49 PM »
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    • Weird... that's a very specialized thing that you wouldn't really know about unless you are in the in-group. 

    That group is pre-Vatican II Catholic theology and commentary on Scripture from a specific priest in a specific time. Methinks they needed something Catholic-looking.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #5 on: December 21, 2021, 09:57:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 21, 2021, 09:53:10 PM
    It's kind of the same phenomenon where you see Catholic religious in movies depicted on the more conservative NO-traditional end of things rather than the Pastor Bob of the Novus Ordo Mass Center that is widespread.

    The Conjuring films come to mind in this regard (which I honestly really enjoy), but I also know that the Warrens were more traddies than NO in reality anyway.
    So does Whoopi Goldberg in Sister Act.  How convincing would it have been for her to dress like Sister Joan Chittister or Sister Helen Prejean?

    That's not what people go to movies for.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #6 on: December 21, 2021, 10:00:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Minnesota on December 21, 2021, 09:56:49 PM
    Weird... that's a very specialized thing that you wouldn't really know about unless you are in the in-group.

    That group is pre-Vatican II Catholic theology and commentary on Scripture from a specific priest in a specific time. Methinks they needed something Catholic-looking.
    No... just a photographic memory and an eye for detail.  (And, no, I'm not autistic or an Aspie.  I just notice stuff.)
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #7 on: March 04, 2024, 05:43:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 21, 2021, 09:53:10 PM
    The Conjuring films come to mind in this regard (which I honestly really enjoy), but I also know that the Warrens were more traddies than NO in reality anyway.
    .

    I've heard these people's name on here before, and I didn't really know much about them, but I looked up their entry on Wikipedia, and what I read was completely crazy:

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    The Warrens were American paranormal investigators and authors associated with prominent cases of alleged hauntings. Edward was a self-taught and self-professed demonologist, author, and lecturer. Lorraine professed to be clairvoyant and a light trance medium who worked closely with her husband.

    In 1952, the Warrens founded the New England Society for Psychic Research (NESPR), the oldest ghost hunting group in New England.[4] They authored many books about the paranormal and about their private investigations into various reports of paranormal activity. They claimed to have investigated well over 10,000 cases during their caree


    These people operated in the fifties?!! I can't imagine how a couple of laypeople could go around claiming to be psychic and tangling with demons and so on could have avoided being barred from the sacraments or even placed under interdict in the fifties for publicly promoting superstition and such erroneous theological ideas.

    Does anyone know if they practiced the Faith and received the sacraments before Vatican 2?!
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #8 on: March 04, 2024, 06:32:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2024, 05:43:47 PM
    .

    I've heard these people's name on here before, and I didn't really know much about them, but I looked up their entry on Wikipedia, and what I read was completely crazy:


    These people operated in the fifties?!! I can't imagine how a couple of laypeople could go around claiming to be psychic and tangling with demons and so on could have avoided being barred from the sacraments or even placed under interdict in the fifties for publicly promoting superstition and such erroneous theological ideas.

    Does anyone know if they practiced the Faith and received the sacraments before Vatican 2?!
    Is it really that surprising? Vatican 2 didn't occur overnight, most clergy were weak in faith and the laypeople also, the Fr. Feeney case comes to mind, a lot of misinformation all because he first stood up for the dogma EENS.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #9 on: March 04, 2024, 06:39:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on March 04, 2024, 06:32:40 PM
    Is it really that surprising? Vatican 2 didn't occur overnight, most clergy were weak in faith and the laypeople also, the Fr. Feeney case comes to mind, a lot of misinformation all because he first stood up for the dogma EENS.
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    It really is fascinating to me to see the level of fanaticism in the Feeneyite mind. Here I just asked about some mediums in the fifties who seemingly claimed to be Catholic, and was curious if they practiced the Faith, and all I get in response is more endless grievances about Leonard Feeney.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #10 on: March 05, 2024, 02:19:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2024, 06:39:58 PM
    .

    It really is fascinating to me to see the level of fanaticism in the Feeneyite mind. Here I just asked about some mediums in the fifties who seemingly claimed to be Catholic, and was curious if they practiced the Faith, and all I get in response is more endless grievances about Leonard Feeney.
    Seethe.

    Fr. Feeney comes to mind because he was calling out the rot while most didn't even know there was a problem.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #11 on: March 05, 2024, 04:46:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2024, 06:39:58 PM
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    It really is fascinating to me to see the level of fanaticism in the Feeneyite mind. Here I just asked about some mediums in the fifties who seemingly claimed to be Catholic, and was curious if they practiced the Faith, and all I get in response is more endless grievances about Leonard Feeney.
    :laugh1::laugh2::laugh1::laugh2::laugh1: too true.  It's been a while since I looked into these "paranormal investigator" people but I seem to recall them being protestants.  They went to trad clergy (notably Bp Mckenna) for exorcisms... whether that was due to knowledge of the inefficacy of novus ordo exorcisms, or due to a shunning by novus ordo clergy due to potential bad PR I am not sure.  
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #12 on: March 05, 2024, 06:56:03 AM »
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    • Not only that, but the Warrens were frauds and hoaxters, as most of their investigations were concocted for financial motives.  They would go in and tell families that they could "make a lot of money", and then give them like $500 out of the lucrative proceeds from their movies and books, where Ed often told the writer to make it scary, even if they had to make stuff up, fake photographs, etc. ... and there were credible allegations of sordid behavior on Ed's part in his later years.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #13 on: March 05, 2024, 06:58:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on March 04, 2024, 06:39:58 PM
    It really is fascinating to me to see the level of fanaticism in the Feeneyite mind. Here I just asked about some mediums in the fifties who seemingly claimed to be Catholic, and was curious if they practiced the Faith, and all I get in response is more endless grievances about Leonard Feeney.

    He's referring more to this general bizarre thinking among some Trads that everything was perfectly Catholic in the 1940s and 1950s, and merely used Father Feeney as an example.  Modernism was absolutely running rampant in the 1940s and 1950s.  Perhaps you're the one who's overly-obsessed with Father Feeney that you missed his point and missed that Father Feeney was just the example he used.
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    Re: Haydock Bible used as a prop on Saturday Night Live?
    « Reply #14 on: March 05, 2024, 07:22:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on March 05, 2024, 02:19:13 AM
    Seethe.

    Fr. Feeney comes to mind because he was calling out the rot while most didn't even know there was a problem.


    Video related gives a glimpse of that rot.
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