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Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 05:30:03 AM »
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  • :facepalm:
    Check out the recent rice-fruit...archaeologic dig thread I started in the Health & Nutrition subforum.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #16 on: June 29, 2018, 10:42:56 PM »
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  • Another deceitful response.

    The U.S. hasn't had the draft since the Vietnam conflict ended.
    It can come back. 


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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #17 on: June 29, 2018, 10:44:13 PM »
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  • Your vague, insubstantial "piety" isn't Catholic. It's deceit.

    Individual Catholic soldiers, who are faithful, will get St. Philip Neri's intercession, but the Godless U.S. military as a whole will not get his intercession because the military is of the spirit of Antichrist. They removed the Cross from their chapels and military installations, and they teach a polytheistic, pantheistic, unified global religion that excludes the truth of Jesus Christ; and they fight immoral wars and destroy nations based on pretexts; and the military allows perverts against nature to openly serve.

    Of course, this begs the question, why would any faithful Catholic person serve in what is clearly, in these present times, a diabolical organization such as the U.S. military.
    Love of your country

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #18 on: June 29, 2018, 11:19:38 PM »
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  • It can come back.

    Red herring fallacy.

    Even if the draft was enacted, the U.S. military is still Antichrist in spirit because it removed the Cross from military chapels & installations ... allows perverts (fαɢɢօts) to openly serve ... wages immoral wars ... and teaches a pantheistic, polytheistic, unified, global false religion. No saint will intercede for any Godless, wicked institution, and God won't hear the institution's "prayers".



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    Love of your country

    Vacuous comment. Means nothing.

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #19 on: June 30, 2018, 12:12:33 AM »
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  • Red herring fallacy.

    Even if the draft was enacted, the U.S. military is still Antichrist in spirit because it removed the Cross from military chapels & installations ... allows perverts (fαɢɢօts) to openly serve ... wages immoral wars ... and teaches a pantheistic, polytheistic, unified, global false religion. No saint will intercede for any Godless, wicked institution, and God won't hear the institution's "prayers".



    Vacuous comment. Means nothing.
    Love of country is a virtue in relation to the fourth commandment.


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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #20 on: June 30, 2018, 12:19:00 AM »
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  • Love of country is a virtue in relation to the fourth commandment.

    Red herring fallacy.

    Loving your country doesn't nullify the fact that no saint will intercede for a nation's military that, by policy, commits iniquity and is the spirit of Antichrist. Nor will God hear that military's prayers.

    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #21 on: June 30, 2018, 12:21:12 AM »
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  • Red herring fallacy.

    Loving your country doesn't nullify the fact that no saint will intercede for a nation's military that, by policy, commits iniquity and is the spirit of Antichrist. Nor will God hear that military's prayers.
    The saint will intercede for the individual soldiers who are in need.

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #22 on: June 30, 2018, 12:32:41 AM »
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  • The saint will intercede for the individual soldiers who are in need.

    He will only intercede for individual Godly soldiers who ask for his intercession or soldiers sincerely seeking God and have contrition for their sins.

    I already made that distinction before your comment above. My exact comment:

    "Individual Catholic soldiers, who are faithful, will get St. Philip Neri's intercession, but the Godless U.S. military as a whole will not get his intercession because the military is of the spirit of Antichrist. They removed the Cross from their chapels and military installations, and they teach a polytheistic, pantheistic, unified global religion that excludes the truth of Jesus Christ; and they fight immoral wars and destroy nations based on pretexts; and the military allows perverts against nature to openly serve.

    "Of course, this begs the question, why would any faithful Catholic person serve in what is clearly, in these present times, a diabolical organization such as the U.S. military."


    You then followed with the red herring fallacy of the draft being enacted.

    You keep proving yourself to be sneaky and a dishonest troll.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)


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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #23 on: June 30, 2018, 10:24:36 PM »
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  • He will only intercede for individual Godly soldiers who ask for his intercession or soldiers sincerely seeking God and have contrition for their sins.

    I already made that distinction before your comment above. My exact comment:

    "Individual Catholic soldiers, who are faithful, will get St. Philip Neri's intercession, but the Godless U.S. military as a whole will not get his intercession because the military is of the spirit of Antichrist. They removed the Cross from their chapels and military installations, and they teach a polytheistic, pantheistic, unified global religion that excludes the truth of Jesus Christ; and they fight immoral wars and destroy nations based on pretexts; and the military allows perverts against nature to openly serve.

    "Of course, this begs the question, why would any faithful Catholic person serve in what is clearly, in these present times, a diabolical organization such as the U.S. military."


    You then followed with the red herring fallacy of the draft being enacted.

    You keep proving yourself to be sneaky and a dishonest troll.
    I don't think that love of one's nation is sneaky and dishonest.

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #24 on: June 30, 2018, 10:31:50 PM »
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  • I don't think that love of one's nation is sneaky and dishonest

    Of course, it's not.

    You're sneaky & dishonest for treading around the Catholic Truth that God will not hear prayers of iniquitous groups, nor will any saint intercede for them. Faithful Catholic individuals in those institutions, who pray, will be heard by Heaven, but, as I said before, why would any Catholic serve in an institution that is of Antichrist such as the U.S. military? Don't say "the draft" again because that doesn't apply now, and it hasn't since the Vietnam conflict ended. Use some logic and stop eating the oils and fats that clog your brain which limits you from thinking well.

    Understand, sneaky man?
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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #25 on: June 30, 2018, 11:02:21 PM »
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  • Of course, it's not.

    You're sneaky & dishonest for treading around the Catholic Truth that God will not hear prayers of iniquitous groups, nor will any saint intercede for them. Faithful Catholic individuals in those institutions, who pray, will be heard by Heaven, but, as I said before, why would any Catholic serve in an institution that is of Antichrist such as the U.S. military? Don't say "the draft" again because that doesn't apply now, and it hasn't since the Vietnam conflict ended. Use some logic and stop eating the oils and fats that clog your brain which limits you from thinking well.

    Understand, sneaky man?
    Patriotic Americans who love their nation and care about its well being may serve in the armed forces. We don't have to be in agreement with all of its policies but then we should remember that there were Christian soldiers in the Roman army who prayed for its success in battle and when God sent rain to confound their enemies the emperor Severus was more favorably inclined towards the Christians and there was an abatement in the persecutions for a time.


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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #26 on: July 01, 2018, 12:00:50 AM »
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  • Patriotic Americans who love their nation and care about its well being may serve in the armed forces. We don't have to be in agreement with all of its policies but then we should remember that there were Christian soldiers in the Roman army who prayed for its success in battle and when God sent rain to confound their enemies the emperor Severus was more favorably inclined towards the Christians and there was an abatement in the persecutions for a time.
    None of that has any parallel to the iniquitous manifestations of the U.S. military who, paradoxically, ask St. Philip Neri to watch over them and guide them. Individual faithful Catholics might be saved (there are stories about indicidual Catholics getting help from God in every U.S. war campaign) but that doesn't mean the military as a whole will receive God's favor. Look what happened to the Roman Empire. Extinct. That includes the Roman army. They were not in God's favor. If the U.S. military succeeds in a campaign, it's not because God favored them, especially when iniquity is being spread. The world follows Satan, and many of his followers will win many battles and wars before Christ returns again.

    And as I previously stated, only the Catholic Church can deem a patron saint to a group of people. St. Philip Neri isn't truly a patron saint of U.S. Special Forces, even if they adopt him as a surrogate. Also, to say St. Philip Neri will intercede for them upon their request is like saying Jeffrey Dahmer's "prayers" will be heard by God and saints will intercede for him, all while Dahmer remains entrenched in evil behavior and deeds. Dahmer is an appropriate personification of the U.S. military. They're essentially sodomites who are serial killers. They promote and protect sodomy, and they serially murder countless people. Wars based on pretexts are immoral. It's murder.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #27 on: July 01, 2018, 01:24:23 AM »
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  • Maybe we can pray for this to be a prelude for someone's conversion. 

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #28 on: July 01, 2018, 02:11:54 AM »
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  • Maybe we can pray for this to be a prelude for someone's conversion.

    Absolutely, but first you have to be honest to God by acknowledging that no entity - rather an institution or person - can willfully, obstinately live in mortal sin, and expect their "prayers" to be heard and petitions granted by God, and saints to intercede for them. Matthew 23:27 applies in this case.

    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Saint Phillip Neri - Patron of U.S. Special Forces
    « Reply #29 on: July 01, 2018, 05:25:36 AM »
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  • Absolutely, but first you have to be honest to God by acknowledging that no entity - rather an institution or person - can willfully, obstinately live in mortal sin, and expect their "prayers" to be heard and petitions granted by God, and saints to intercede for them. Matthew 23:27 applies in this case.
    St Teresa of Avila said that sometimes God will manifest Himself to a soul that is in mortal sin in order to bring it close to Him.