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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers => Topic started by: Marlelar on February 22, 2015, 10:52:22 PM
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Which mystery do you start with on Sundays during Lent? Since Sundays are not counted as days of Lent and Sunday is when we remember our Lord's resurrection I assume the Sorrowful mysteries are not the first one prayed. Am I wrong?
Marsha
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I believe you are correct, Marlelar. I always remember praying Glorious on Sundays, until I attended SSPX and found that they were saying Sorrowful Mysteries on Sundays during Lenten Season. This too me is an innovation and a mistake. As you say, Sundays do not count as Lent.
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Same here Nadir, we always said the sorrowful mysteries all during Lent except on Sundays, we said the Glorious mysteries.
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Glad to know I'm not crazy! Thanks.
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I believe you are correct, Marlelar. I always remember praying Glorious on Sundays, until I attended SSPX and found that they were saying Sorrowful Mysteries on Sundays during Lenten Season. This too me is an innovation and a mistake. As you say, Sundays do not count as Lent.
I too have observed this whenever we've attended an SSPX Mass during Lent. Does anyone know their reasoning? I just never thought to ask.
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. I always remember praying Glorious on Sundays, until I attended SSPX and found that they were saying Sorrowful Mysteries on Sundays during Lenten Season. This too me is an innovation and a mistake.
Actually the new innovation and mistake is that in the 1960's people got lazy and just rotated a different mystery every day all through the year and only followed the liturgical calendar on Sundays. SSPX follows this modern way as do most trads. The following is taken from my earlier post and shows how the church and the saints prayed the rosary.
From the 1858 Raccolta page 555 and the 1961 Ideal Missal page 49
"The Five Joyful Mysteries are to be said on Mondays and Thursdays throughout the year: and daily from the first Sunday in Advent until the feast of the Purification. The Five Sorrowful Mysteries are to be said on Tuesdays and Fridays throughout the year: and daily from Ash Wednesday until Easter Sunday. The Five Glorious Mysteries are to be said on the all other Sundays and the Wednesdays and Saturdays throughout the year: and daily from Easter Sunday until Trinity Sunday"
If you pray the Glorious Mysteries on Sundays of Lent then it would follow that you pray them every Sunday even during advent.
Why can't we just do as we are told by holy Pope's of the past and tradition. We seem to complicate and over think everything.
:geezer:
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I was always taught the following:
Monday & Thursday - Joyful
Tuesday & Friday - Sorrowful
Wednesday & Saturday - Glorious
Sundays of Advent & Christmastide - Joyful
Sundays of Lent - Sorrowful
All other Sundays - Glorious
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15 mysteries a day and you shouldn't have to worry about this problem. Even when I work 44 hours a week, I still manage to get 15 mysteries a day. Anyways, it is a good solution to this in my opinion.
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I was always taught the following:
Monday & Thursday - Joyful
Tuesday & Friday - Sorrowful
Wednesday & Saturday - Glorious
Sundays of Advent & Christmastide - Joyful
Sundays of Lent - Sorrowful
All other Sundays - Glorious
By the time I was leaving high school this is how everyone was praying also.
The children of today are probably taught something else if anything.
It all depends on how pure you want your tradition to be and how far down the slippery slope you are willing to go.
We say we want basic tradition from valid holy popes but when we are shown it we balk..
I guess we're more modern than we want to admit.
:geezer:
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But since Sunday's are not "days" of lent does that rule still apply?
Marsha
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The old books say EVERY day of lent.
The gospels of the Sundays of Lent are all geared to Lent, not resurrection.
If you give up some thing for Lent do you not give it up on Sundays?
:geezer:
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The old books say EVERY day of lent.
The gospels of the Sundays of Lent are all geared to Lent, not resurrection.
If you give up some thing for Lent do you not give it up on Sundays?
:geezer:
Lent is 40 days, (a good round Biblical figure), that is 6 weeks and 4 days.
Now let's work this out 6 X 7 = 42, 42 + 4 = 46.
No that can't be right.
Let's try again: 6 X 6 = 36, 36 + 4 = 40
Ah! that's because Lent excludes Sundays. That is 6 fast days and a day of rest from fasting.
Miserimini, the answer to your question is "I do not give it up on Sundays."
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15 mysteries a day and you shouldn't have to worry about this problem. Even when I work 44 hours a week, I still manage to get 15 mysteries a day. Anyways, it is a good solution to this in my opinion.
This.
(Even if one thinks it's too difficult on weekdays, how hard would it be to at least pray the 15 decades on Sundays during Lent?)
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I pray fifteen decades every day, but on Sundays at my SSPX chapel we pray the glorious mysteries most of the year, the Joyful Mysteries during advent and Christmas time and the Sorrowful mysteries during lent.
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The old books say EVERY day of lent.
The gospels of the Sundays of Lent are all geared to Lent, not resurrection.
If you give up some thing for Lent do you not give it up on Sundays?
:geezer:
Lent is 40 days, (a good round Biblical figure), that is 6 weeks and 4 days.
Now let's work this out 6 X 7 = 42, 42 + 4 = 46.
No that can't be right.
Let's try again: 6 X 6 = 36, 36 + 4 = 40
Ah! that's because Lent excludes Sundays. That is 6 fast days and a day of rest from fasting.
Miserimini, the answer to your question is "I do not give it up on Sundays."
You're absolutely right!!!!
We'd better be very careful or we just might do more than the bare minimum!
:geezer: