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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2023, 07:54:00 AM »
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  • I noted on Fr. Iscara's LinkedIn profile that he had filled in 6 languages, to varying degrees of proficiency.

    How many of us would have anything other than "English -- Native speaker"?

    Maybe a second language if we're lucky.

    Well, Father now knows all languages, or, rather, has access to them all (I doubt they're all infused immediately).

    He also knows whether Bergoglio is pope, what exactly happened at Vatican II, whether the earth is Flat, etc.  He has access to know everything now.  He's probably witnessed all the events of Our Lord's life and can know and see/witness everything that's ever happened in all of history (since Father loved history).

    For our time on earth, we only need to acquire as much knowledge as is consistent with our duties of state, but once we go before God, we no longer have any limitations in terms of what we can know.  When I was younger, I had an almost insatiable desire for knowledge, and was frustrated that I couldn't learn everything.  But I realized as I grew older and gained some actual wisdom (instead of knowledge) that outside of what we need to fulfill God's will, it's all vanity, and our thirst for knowledge will be satisfied in the next life more than what we could acquire in thousands of lifetimes on our own.

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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #31 on: December 22, 2023, 08:11:28 AM »
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  • For our time on earth, we only need to acquire as much knowledge as is consistent with our duties of state, but once we go before God, we no longer have any limitations in terms of what we can know.  When I was younger, I had an almost insatiable desire for knowledge, and was frustrated that I couldn't learn everything.  But I realized as I grew older and gained some actual wisdom (instead of knowledge) that outside of what we need to fulfill God's will, it's all vanity, and our thirst for knowledge will be satisfied in the next life more than what we could acquire in thousands of lifetimes on our own.

    That's a good point, but I would point out that in Father's case, he wasn't "over-doing" it when it came to human knowledge, at least not beyond that which is good for a Professor to have. Because he had all these languages, education, etc. under his belt already when he was middle-aged in the late 90's.

    And to be able to be a good professor, to be able to write (good, useful, worth reading) books, you need way more knowledge than the average person. Father had that special calling.
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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #32 on: December 22, 2023, 08:24:28 PM »
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  • That was a crime in Mexico in the early 1990s?
    Yes, it was an archaic law in Australia at that time also, a left over from colonial days of Catholic persecution by the Protestants, but was never enforced here, although it was certainly used by some priests as a 'pretext' for travelling in the clergyman.

    Here is an article I found from the Washington Post from 1991, which would have been the year after Father's imprisonment I believe:

    By Edward Cody
    November 2, 1991
    MEXICO CITY, NOV. 1 -- President Carlos Salinas de Gortari announced today he will bestow a new legal status on the Roman Catholic Church in Mexico as a first step toward erasing the country's bitter legacy of official anti-clericalism.
    The measure, revealed in an annual report to the nation, formalized Salinas's intention to depart from rigid constitutional restrictions on church activities imposed at the end of Mexico's turn-of-the-century revolutionary chaos, during which land-owning clergy frequently took sides against popular rebellions to which the ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) traces its origin.
    As the years passed, authorities largely have ignored the legal restraints, and, in a nation that is 90 percent Catholic, church activities are an important part of daily life. Nevertheless, the church's legal status has endured as a passionate issue for many PRI leaders imbued with legends of the ruling party's revolutionary past.



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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #33 on: December 22, 2023, 08:27:51 PM »
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  • That's a good point, but I would point out that in Father's case, he wasn't "over-doing" it when it came to human knowledge, at least not beyond that which is good for a Professor to have. Because he had all these languages, education, etc. under his belt already when he was middle-aged in the late 90's.

    And to be able to be a good professor, to be able to write (good, useful, worth reading) books, you need way more knowledge than the average person. Father had that special calling.
    He was a learned priest, yet so simple and childlike.

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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #34 on: December 22, 2023, 08:55:44 PM »
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  • That's a good point, but I would point out that in Father's case, he wasn't "over-doing" it when it came to human knowledge, at least not beyond that which is good for a Professor to have. Because he had all these languages, education, etc. under his belt already when he was middle-aged in the late 90's.

    And to be able to be a good professor, to be able to write (good, useful, worth reading) books, you need way more knowledge than the average person. Father had that special calling.

    I didn't mean to imply that he was over-doing it ... just that his appetite for knowledge has been completely satisfied, and probably realizes now how little he actually knew, just as St. Thomas said on his deathbed that his works were as so much straw (compared to what he was seeing as he transitioned into eternity).


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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #35 on: February 25, 2024, 06:23:54 PM »
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  • SSPX tribute to Father Juan Iscara


    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #36 on: February 25, 2024, 11:04:22 PM »
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  • Sestak would have done a better job, to be honest. I don't agree with him about the SSPX, but he makes much better tribute videos.

    I remember Fr. Iscara gave me a small half-dollar sized medal of St. Therese the Little Flower. He might have seen that my room had a picture of her on the wall, and assumed I was devoted to that saint. My room came with that picture, but nevertheless he wasn't wrong -- I did learn more about St. Therese and she became one of my favorite saints.

    I felt like he was doing it to be nice, since he ribbed me a bit here and there in his classes. I think I was annoying to him at times, with my eccentricities. But I felt like it was a genuine, sweet gesture. I'm certainly going to treasure that gift even more now.

    I also remember my mother was proofreading the TAN Book by Attila "The Catholic Church and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity" or some such. I'm certain it's not available anymore. Anyhow, in that book it said that when Our Lord was born, all the sodomites died (or something to that effect). I quoted that to Fr. Iscara during one of his classes, and it bowled him over. He continued his class several times, for a couple minutes, and kept interrupting his lecture, coming back to me as if resuming his shock... "What? Where did you hear that?" I can't remember if he was laughing or not but a lot of the class was. Fr. Iscara couldn't get over that bold assertion I quoted. I guess that was one of the things that made a deep impression on him, that I was an eccentric seminarian.
    https://archive.org/details/catholicchurchho0000guim

    I'm sad at his passing, and I hope he goes to Heaven soon if he's not there already.

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    Re: RIP - Fr. Juan Carlos Iscara
    « Reply #37 on: February 25, 2024, 11:25:26 PM »
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  • Here was the quote I was referring to, which surprised Fr. Iscara during his class --

    "Page 12
    Saint Bonaventure, speaking in a sermon at the church of Saint Mary of Portiuncula about the miracles that took place simultaneously with the birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ, narrates this: “Seventh prodigy: All sodomites—men and women—died all over the earth, as Saint Jerome said in his commentary on the psalm ‘The light was born for the just.’ This made it clear that He was born to reform nature and promote chastity.”
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