https://www.ebay.ca/itm/256273382279?† DNJC TRUE CROSS RELIC STERLING RELIQUARY COA 1891 DOcuмENT CERTIFICATE FRANCE†
In reality, the seller is selling the Reliquary. Used. Sterling Reliquary: Dimensions 20mm
x 3mm x 6mm. Weight: 2.3 grams. It is good to know that if the price is not proportionate to it's real value, then it could be called profiteering, gouging or something to that effect, ie. not Catholic . Or a type of abuse. "DNJC", is French for 'De Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ', (Of Our Lord Jesus-Christ) .
As an aside, eBay prohibits the sale of body parts. So the vendors, wanting to spread first class relics of saints, ei. bones, flesh, blood etc., state that the buyer is simply purchasing the RELIQUARY itself...the contents are at no charge. So good to keep in mind that DISTINCTIONS are crucial. Canon GREGORY HESSE has a great conference on that topic alone: subjective vs objective, validity vs liceity, formal vs material, act and potency.
https://www.superflumina.org/principles-&-distinctions.htmlDistinctionsBefore I start to explain to you the problems with Vatican II I want to make some very important distinctions… In recent discussions, even with famous writers, learned men, very learned men, there seems to be great difficulty in applying the distinction between objective and subjective, even by people who are able to explain the distinction to me academically. [They] still have a problem applying it. So let me make a few distinctions starting with [this one]. Now… objective means something concerning the object, the thing; subjective means something that concerns the person. So when I pronounce an objective judgement I judge facts and things, or actions. When I pronounce a subjective judgement I judge a person—and I do not want to do that, by the way…
Objectively means concerning the thing, what it is and how it is. Subjectively means what it means to me: how I understand it. When at the Council of Florence Pope Eugene IV in 1441 said “No one who is not subject to the Roman Pontiff, even if he was to shed his blood for Christ cannot be saved” he was pronouncing an objective judgement. The Pope did not say that all Protestants are in hell. The Pope said objectively speaking they have no chance to be saved. Subjectively what the Lord will do with them we do not know. De internis Ecclesia non iudicat: the Church does not judge internal things. De mortuis Ecclesia non iudicat: the Church does not judge the dead…
There has to be a distinction between material and formal. Material means something is there: it exists… Formal means it is declared as such. When I say that the present Pope is a heretic it raises eyebrows and harsh criticism. I say that the present Pope [i.e., John Paul II] is a material heretic. That means there is heresy to be found in his writings, and I will prove it to you… I do not say that he is a heretic in the sense that he wants to say heresy, that he commits the sin of heresy. I would not dare to pronounce this judgement. Nobody can judge the Pope anyway! And nobody can judge other people’s intentions and other people’s consciences. We can only judge what we see. I see there… heresy printed; it is there. Material heresy; the matter of heresy is there. I do not say it is formal heresy. [Let me] show you the difference.
The present Pope [John Paul II] always says, “In accordance with tradition I say to you…” and then he says something wrong. He doesn’t mean to say heresy because he says “in accordance with tradition”. If he was to say “Contrary to what the Council of Trent taught you I say…” From that moment he ceases to be Pope, most probably, because that would be objective, formal, heresy - not material heresy.
There’s another distinction [validity and liceity]. It is unbelievable what people say after I [have] held a speech or gave a sermon. I once said, “the new Mass of Paul VI celebrated in Latin according to the book most probably is validly celebrated”. Somebody walked out of the session and said ”Fr Hesse says the new Mass is alright!” I didn’t say it’s alright; I said it’s valid under certain circuмstances. Valid means… it takes place; it is there. It is not licit for liceity [refers to whether] it is allowed or not allowed. Under certain circuмstances the new rites of the sacraments may take place as well. That doesn’t mean they are allowed… [For instance] the Catholic Church always recognises that the Russian Orthodox Church has all seven sacraments as valid but not licit because they are heretics and schismatics. They are heretics because they say the Pope is not infallible… and they are heretics because they say the Pope does not have the Primacy. But they celebrate validly…
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Now… the distinction between act and potency… The entire philosophy of St Thomas Aquinas is based on the distinction between act and potency. A thing, anything that is, can be in two ways, actually or potentially. Something already might be what it should be, and is, and it might be something else in the future. Vatican II and the present popes do not use this distinction because they are based on a different philosophy and that causes a lot of confusion. When the present Pope says “All people are saved” is he right? Yes. He is right… all people are saved in potency; potentially they are saved - possibly. Christ died on the Cross in order to enable mankind to be saved. That doesn’t mean that everybody will be saved. And actually not all people will be saved. Our Lady showed the children that Hell is packed with people when she appeared to them in Fatima…
When I speak English… I have to submit to the rules of speaking English. When I speak I have to submit to the rules of speaking. I do not think that you would appreciate it… if I was to tell you “I am Pope”. I am Pope—potentially! So is every male present: potentially. Though the possibility is zilch. You will say “Okay”. But if I was to say to you “I am Pope” you would say “this guy’s nuts”. Christ did not in fact save everybody because there’s enough who say “No”.
So I try to submit to the rules of language. And I request the Pope to do the same…
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