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Offline Cryptinox

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Refuting Eastern "Orthodoxy" with their Western Rite?
« on: July 24, 2021, 03:16:14 PM »
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    • I know the "Orthodox" schismatics have a bastardization of the Western Rite. I am curious if anyone knows anything in their Lex Orandi that can serve as a refutation of their religion. So far I found two things that could possibly serve as a refutation. The first thing I found that could possibly refute them is the fact they use Lauda Sion on Corpus Christi. This sequence teaches Christ is present whole and entire under both Species contrary to what most Eastern Orthodox hold. This one is a minor refutation but the next one seems like it does more damage. I was reading a pdf from the Western Orthodox that talks about how some Western Rite "parishes" substitute the Athanasian Creed implying it is used in some of their "churches" the Athanasian Creed says the following: "The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding."  Most Orthodox would call the statement heresy yet they seem to use it in their Western Rite.
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    Re: Refuting Eastern "Orthodoxy" with their Western Rite?
    « Reply #1 on: July 24, 2021, 06:24:28 PM »
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    • Not sure if it is any good, but Defeat Modernism just released this episode

    The Orthodox Masquerade- Unholy Orders For Unholy Sects
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    Re: Refuting Eastern "Orthodoxy" with their Western Rite?
    « Reply #2 on: July 24, 2021, 06:46:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: angelusmaria on July 24, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
    Not sure if it is any good, but Defeat Modernism just released this episode

    The Orthodox Masquerade- Unholy Orders For Unholy Sects

    I started listening to it, but was a little let down when it turned out to be DM reading these articles from TIA:
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_008_Kyrill_1.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_009_Kyrill_2.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_010_Ukraine.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_011_Masquerade_4.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_012_Masquerade_5.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_013_Masquerade_6.html

    MHFM had a few good videos contra Eastern "Orthodoxy" a while back:



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    Re: Refuting Eastern "Orthodoxy" with their Western Rite?
    « Reply #3 on: July 24, 2021, 07:23:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on July 24, 2021, 06:46:02 PM
    I started listening to it, but was a little let down when it turned out to be DM reading these articles from TIA:
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_008_Kyrill_1.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_009_Kyrill_2.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_010_Ukraine.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_011_Masquerade_4.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_012_Masquerade_5.html
    https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_013_Masquerade_6.html

    MHFM had a few good videos contra Eastern "Orthodoxy" a while back:




    Yeah, I just finished listening to it, I concur.  It contained some things I didn't know.  I was actually going to watch the MHFM vids you linked before the DM one, but I never know what I am going to get with the Dimonds, so I figured I would watch those if I still had questions, which I do, but not enough to dive to deep, I have had zero contact with any Orthodox in all my years of living.
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    Re: Refuting Eastern "Orthodoxy" with their Western Rite?
    « Reply #4 on: July 24, 2021, 07:36:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: angelusmaria on July 24, 2021, 07:23:21 PM
    Yeah, I just finished listening to it, I concur.  It contained some things I didn't know.  I was actually going to watch the MHFM vids you linked before the DM one, but I never know what I am going to get with the Dimonds, so I figured I would watch those if I still had questions, which I do, but not enough to dive to deep, I have had zero contact with any Orthodox in all my years of living.
    Then you are lucky. Pretty much all the online Eastern Orthodox I have met have been very nasty people and always mock you for your positions. I often had insulted their "saints" when they acted uncharitable.
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    Re: Refuting Eastern "Orthodoxy" with their Western Rite?
    « Reply #5 on: July 25, 2021, 12:48:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on July 24, 2021, 03:16:14 PM
    I know the "Orthodox" schismatics have a bastardization of the Western Rite. I am curious if anyone knows anything in their Lex Orandi that can serve as a refutation of their religion. So far I found two things that could possibly serve as a refutation. The first thing I found that could possibly refute them is the fact they use Lauda Sion on Corpus Christi. This sequence teaches Christ is present whole and entire under both Species contrary to what most Eastern Orthodox hold. This one is a minor refutation but the next one seems like it does more damage. I was reading a pdf from the Western Orthodox that talks about how some Western Rite "parishes" substitute the Athanasian Creed implying it is used in some of their "churches" the Athanasian Creed says the following: "The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding."  Most Orthodox would call the statement heresy yet they seem to use it in their Western Rite.
    Good catch. This is one of the big hypocrisies of the Orthodox. They use the fact that they have no real leadership or consensus on anything to shapeshift and change their position as it suits them. The Filioque is one of those examples, where at times they merely accused Catholics of misrepresenting or poorly phrasing it, and at other times called it a vile irreconcilable heresy, depending on whichever position suited their purposes better at the time.
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