Author Topic: Read this -- sounds like some in Rome today (Read 1065 times)

Matthew · « **on:** December 10, 2006, 03:42:06 PM »

Sounds like the Roman motivation for the 1984 Indult, Fraternity of St. Peter (and other Indult groups) and, of course, the possible (future) Universal Indult:

We allow the vestments, altars, and candles to remain in use until they are used up or it pleases us to make a change. But we do not oppose anyone who would herein do otherwise. In the true Mass, however, of real Christians, the altar could not remain where it is and the priest must always face the people as doubtless Christ did in the last Supper. But let that await its own time.

Martin Luther
Preface to "The German Mass"

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2006, 10:00:08 AM »

Sad but true, the Lutheran assault is most certainly of the same substance as the modern one. Their tactics are there for all to see, if they will see them.

Do not underestimate the enemy. Do not fail to identify him, either - which is easily done by many (most) in these days.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2006, 03:12:10 PM »

Quote from: Trinity

Our nearest TLM (100 miles) has only two TLM masses a month. What are they the rest of the time?

Do you know who offers it? If it is an Indult, then the NOM is likely said there the other 58 days. If it is CMRI, for example, it is probably offered in a rented space (hotel, etc.) or in a private house, and nothing else takes place the rest of the time. I know the CMRI has a presence in KS, although I am not sure the Mass times and locations off the top of my head.

Ancilla_Indigna · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2007, 10:01:54 AM »

Quote from: ChantCd

Sounds like the Roman motivation for the 1984 Indult, Fraternity of St. Peter (and other Indult groups) and, of course, the possible (future) Universal Indult:

We allow the vestments, altars, and candles to remain in use until they are used up or it pleases us to make a change. But we do not oppose anyone who would herein do otherwise. In the true Mass, however, of real Christians, the altar could not remain where it is and the priest must always face the people as doubtless Christ did in the last Supper. But let that await its own time.

Martin Luther
Preface to "The German Mass"

Chant, what makes you think that the FSSP would ever change the vestments, altars, candles, and face the congregation as in the N.O. Missae?

gilbertgea · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2007, 10:14:00 AM »

'It's in a church, which undoubtedly offers all the weekday, weekend masses, and only two a month are TLM.'

Sounds like an indult. I would look for something else.