When I was Novus Ordo, we went to Mass on the Easter Vigil on Saturday Night.

Currently, I attend an independent chapel and our Mass on Holy Saturday is in the morning.

Some people I know have a traditional Mass on Saturday night.

This is confusing to me, and I remember one year on Good Friday we had a person leave Mass because something didn't seem right to them.

Yes, I am fairly new to traditional Catholicism only coming to tradition about 6 years ago.

Can someone help me understand this?

When I was Novus Ordo, we went to Mass on the Easter Vigil on Saturday Night.

Currently, I attend an independent chapel and our Mass on Holy Saturday is in the morning.

Some people I know have a traditional Mass on Saturday night.

This is confusing to me, and I remember one year on Good Friday we had a person leave Mass because something didn't seem right to them.

Yes, I am fairly new to traditional Catholicism only coming to tradition about 6 years ago.

Can someone help me understand this?

I had the same reaction as you at first.  When I was Novus Ordo we also went to the Easter Vigil on Saturday Night, but after becoming a traditional Catholic, we have the "vigil Mass" on Saturday morning.  I was a little confused at first, but this is what I have found out in the past couple years:

First of all, in the traditional Catholic Church, Easter actually officially starts at 12 noon on Holy Saturday.  (For the Divine Office, Tenebrae, and all the services of the Holy Tridium correspond with Middle Eastern Time, I believe, which is 12 hrs. later...)

The reason the "vigil Mass" of a feast is in the morning is because priests traditionally have to fast from midnight and hence all Masses are usually offered in the morning.  (This is why Holy Thursday Mass is similarly offered in the morning instead of the evening.)  Yes, there are a few exceptions, that was the general norm until more recent times...

Hope this helps...  I don't know much more myself, but maybe you could ask your priest to explain it better than I?  :-)

A blessed Good Friday to you!!!  

There is no Holy Saturday Mass during the day, it is always the Easter Vigil Midnight Mass that starts after sundown, after the blessing of the fire, paschal candle and Easter water.

I was taught the reason there is no Mass on Holy Saturday is for remembrance that we are without Our Lord as he has not risen from the dead yet.

If you find out why they are having a Mass on Holy Saturday, please update us.  

This is how I understand it.

I was born 1946 and been Catholic all my life and I have never before heard of Mass on Holy Saturday. The Easter Vigil is NOT Saturday Mass but a jubilant celebration of Easter.

We were taught that there was not Mass on Holy Saturday because Jesus was dead and in the tomb, and this great loss was marked by the complete loss of the Mass for that day. It is a day of mourning with no consolation, in anticipation of Jesus' Rising.

I would suggest then that your independent chapel is not truly traditional. Seems very strange to me. Who runs the chapel?

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There is no Holy Saturday Mass during the day, it is always the Easter Vigil Midnight Mass that starts after sundown, after the blessing of the fire, paschal candle and Easter water.

I was taught the reason there is no Mass on Holy Saturday is for remembrance that we are without Our Lord as he has not risen from the dead yet.

If you find out why they are having a Mass on Holy Saturday, please update us.  


 

I did ask my priest today.

Prior to the changes in 1955, Holy Saturday Mass was held in the morning.

He said that a thousand years ago people would come on Holy Saturday to be baptized and everyone would wait in the Churches all night long for the Easter Mass.  It would take a long time, so the Mass was moved to the morning.  Pope Pius V established the Holy Saturday time in the morning in the 16th century.  It was held at that time until the changes in 1955.  

He said traditionally Mass was held about 8 or 9 and the Lenten Fast was over at noon.  

So our chapel is pre-1955

We had no communion today.

We will have Holy Saturday Mass at 9 am.

Happy and Blessed Easter to everyone!

Ah, I see! Thanks CathMomof7!
Yes, we always end the fast Holy Saturday at noon - tradition in our house means a ham sandwich a few minutes after noon lol. And boy, was it ever good!

Happy Easter!

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There is no Holy Saturday Mass during the day, it is always the Easter Vigil Midnight Mass that starts after sundown, after the blessing of the fire, paschal candle and Easter water.

I was taught the reason there is no Mass on Holy Saturday is for remembrance that we are without Our Lord as he has not risen from the dead yet.

If you find out why they are having a Mass on Holy Saturday, please update us.  

This is how I understand it.

I was born 1946 and been Catholic all my life and I have never before heard of Mass on Holy Saturday. The Easter Vigil is NOT Saturday Mass but a jubilant celebration of Easter.

We were taught that there was not Mass on Holy Saturday because Jesus was dead and in the tomb, and this great loss was marked by the complete loss of the Mass for that day. It is a day of mourning with no consolation, in anticipation of Jesus' Rising.

I would suggest then that your independent chapel is not truly traditional. Seems very strange to me. Who runs the chapel?

Prior to 1955, Holy Saturday Mass was held in the morning.  It had been that way since 1570. The Restored Vigil was granted permission in the late 40s and early 50s.  

You can read about that here.

My chapel is traditional and my priest uses the pre-1955 Missal.  My personal missal, Father Lasance New Roman Missal, has Holy Saturday Mass in the morning.

It would seem strange, I suppose, since those born in the 1940s or after, even those attending traditional chapels, would be used to the restored Mass unless their priest or chapel refused to go along with the changes in the missal.  

As far as tradition goes, is there some disagreement over using the pre-1955 Missal?

Not far as I'm know. Actually, far as I know, the concern over the changes after the 1955 missal were all because the changes were the precursor, or used as the "trial run" for the new "mass", but the actual changes themselves were never really the main focus of any major disagreement.

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When I was Novus Ordo, we went to Mass on the Easter Vigil on Saturday Night.

Currently, I attend an independent chapel and our Mass on Holy Saturday is in the morning.

Some people I know have a traditional Mass on Saturday night.

This is confusing to me, and I remember one year on Good Friday we had a person leave Mass because something didn't seem right to them.

Yes, I am fairly new to traditional Catholicism only coming to tradition about 6 years ago.

Can someone help me understand this?

I had the same reaction as you at first.  When I was Novus Ordo we also went to the Easter Vigil on Saturday Night, but after becoming a traditional Catholic, we have the "vigil Mass" on Saturday morning.  I was a little confused at first, but this is what I have found out in the past couple years:

First of all, in the traditional Catholic Church, Easter actually officially starts at 12 noon on Holy Saturday.  (For the Divine Office, Tenebrae, and all the services of the Holy Tridium correspond with Middle Eastern Time, I believe, which is 12 hrs. later...)

The reason the "vigil Mass" of a feast is in the morning is because priests traditionally have to fast from midnight and hence all Masses are usually offered in the morning.  (This is why Holy Thursday Mass is similarly offered in the morning instead of the evening.)  Yes, there are a few exceptions, that was the general norm until more recent times...

Hope this helps...  I don't know much more myself, but maybe you could ask your priest to explain it better than I?  :-)

A blessed Good Friday to you!!!  

This is interesting, thanks.

You are welcome!  :-)