Author Topic: purpose of creation (Read 748 times)

spouse of Jesus · « **on:** October 27, 2009, 10:20:54 AM »

I was taught that everything is created for a purpose, and perfection means fulfilling that purpose. For example an apple tree, is made to give fruit. If it is fruitful, has fulfilled it's mission, if not, it means that it hasn't reached the aim God had in mind for it.
Now, canonization means that the deceased person has fulfilled God's plan. A Sainted person cannot be called a barren tree, or a creature prevented from perfection for which it was created.
When you say that God created women for motherhood, either spiritual (nuns and virgins who pray and make sacrifes for others) or physical (matrons), you state that motherhood is the aim God had in mind (or at least one of the aims) for making women.
Why then did the church canonize so many girls who died in childhood? They were too young to be spiritual or physical mothers. Why did She canonize barren married women? and married women who had josephite marriages?
If these people ceased to fulfill the end of their creation, they could not be a glory for the Church.

Pregnancy is the means for creation of the child, not an end for creation of the mother. IMHO

Lybus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:09:44 AM »

very intelligent question. I don't think I know a satisfying answer. The same goes for men; there have been young boys no older than 12 who have been canonized, if i remember correctly.

I think it has more to do with fulfilling to the best of one's abilities that which his/her state in life demands. What does everyone else say?

CM · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:43:52 PM »

Because all things were created for the manifestation of God's goodness. One who has attained heavenly perfection makes manifest His goodness in eternity.

How has this person not fulfilled his or her perfect end?

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #3 on:** October 29, 2009, 12:43:07 AM »

Bp. Williamson said that women are created for motherhood (either spiritual or physical), I admire this fearless bishop, but I have some difficulty understanding this starement by him.

CM · « **Reply #4 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:15:18 AM »

ALL human beings were created to enjoy the Beatific Vision.

CM · « **Reply #5 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:17:16 AM »

Motherhood is one way by which we are brought to this end. But it is not an END in itself.

"I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."

God is the end of every human being (and all things). Without motherhood, how would the human race be propagated, educated and groomed for its end?

Belloc · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2009, 11:06:47 AM »

Good points, but how to get to BV without sacrements.......since you have none, how will you expect to get there?

also, demeaning and condmening ABL, last 100 yrs of clerics, 99.9% of us here at CI, how is your plan going????

Belloc · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2009, 11:10:07 AM »

Quote from: Catholic Martyr

Because all things were created for the manifestation of God's goodness. One who has attained heavenly perfection makes manifest His goodness in eternity.

How has this person not fulfilled his or her perfect end?

Through the Mass and sacrements.remind me, where is it again you get these....??????