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Re: Public schooling an excommunicable offense?
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2021, 01:24:19 PM »
I'm a bit confused and a little more than shaken. I was listening to a Fr. Hewko sermon and he stated that according to Canon Law sending your kids to public school is an excommunicable offense. He didn't state which canon it was, so I'm not sure where he's referring to.

What are parents to do when they have no options for private Catholic schooling, and aren't fit for homeschooling? I don't have an option for Catholic schooling (that isn't Novus Ordo) and I'm not much of a teacher, and my wife certainly isn't fit for it. So what do I do? I'm basically damned if I do and damned if I don’t.
He might have had in mind Divini illius magistri (1929, Pius XI), though I don't believe it called for excommunication:

https://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/docuмents/hf_p-xi_enc_31121929_divini-illius-magistri.html

I'd have to check my trusty Woywod/Smith 1917 CIC commentary, though it's over at the bungalow, and I've got a lot going on today (as usual).  I'll check it out when I can.

I have a vague memory of my godmother's parents, before V2, having been threatened in some way when they sent her one year to the public high school.  I don't recall for sure whether excommunication was invoked, but I seem to recall it was.  They promptly put her back in Catholic school.  People did what they were told back then.  People still cared about their souls.

Not to "pull rank", but I have a bachelor's and two master's, I'm a Mensa member (though inactive, their activities are largely useless wastes of time), I think I'm certainly fit to homeschool.  I remind my son frequently that ours is a Catholic school, our prime task is to save our souls and to learn the good, the true, and the beautiful.  While we teach comprehensively (the state forces this), I remind my son that, no, it won't matter ten trillion years from now, whether you learned calculus or physics, but it most certainly will matter whether you learned to know, love, and serve God in this life, and thereby be happy with Him forever in the next life.

Re: Public schooling an excommunicable offense?
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2021, 01:44:04 PM »
DL you are more than qualified to homeschool.

It's not hard at all.

You will be spending about the same amount of time helping them with their homework as you would homeschooling them.



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Re: Public schooling an excommunicable offense?
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2021, 03:48:51 PM »
I'm a bit confused and a little more than shaken. I was listening to a Fr. Hewko sermon and he stated that according to Canon Law sending your kids to public school is an excommunicable offense. He didn't state which canon it was, so I'm not sure where he's referring to.

What are parents to do when they have no options for private Catholic schooling, and aren't fit for homeschooling? I don't have an option for Catholic schooling (that isn't Novus Ordo) and I'm not much of a teacher, and my wife certainly isn't fit for it. So what do I do? I'm basically damned if I do and damned if I don’t.

I don't know if it's in Canon Law, but morally speaking it's COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE to turn your kids over to the public Government schools for indoctrination.

They learn about sodomy, masturbation, transsɛҳuąƖism, LGBT, "white people are the devil", BLM, Critical Race theory --and that's before 2nd grade. This is 2021, not 1985. The world has changed since GenX went to school in the 80's and early 90's. And those horrible things I listed? That's in rural conservative areas. The big cities are much worse! I'm only half-joking here. My point is: it's not just abuses in a few highly liberal places where garbage like this is poured into childrens' minds. It's literally EVERYWHERE. North Dakota. Texas. Red states. Blue states. Rural/urban. Doesn't matter.

Do you know the average age kids first see pornography? Age 9. Listen to a few podcasts by Jonathon Van Maren for a real eye-opener on this heading. It's the truth. You can deny it if you like, but that doesn't invalidate it. Unless your children are sheltered, they WILL be exposed to porno at a young age. And the worst kind of porno too! Not simply playboy and 70's era soft porn. Not just the lingerie section of the Sears catalog. We're talking gangbanging, inter-racial, degrading, perverted stuff that can't even be named. AT AGE NINE. In ALL public schools nationwide.

I don't see how mortal sin could be avoided, sending children into certain loss of Faith like that. How could Trads do that? Why did they leave the Novus Ordo, only to sign up their children in the devil's own schools? Insanity.


Better for your children to be uneducated, with a literal 2nd grade education, than to lose their souls in modern-day public schools. Janitors can save their souls, you know.

Re: Public schooling an excommunicable offense?
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2021, 04:00:14 PM »
Alright. So it's potentially gravely offensive to God if I send them to public school. I ask this because my wife has my daughter all ready to go to pre-K in a couple weeks after unsuccessfully trying to convince her we should homeschool. To reiterate: my wife is non-Catholic, so her argument is always "I don't want them to be weird".

Re: Public schooling an excommunicable offense?
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2021, 04:16:13 PM »
I don't know if it's in Canon Law, but morally speaking it's COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE to turn your kids over to the public Government schools for indoctrination.

They learn about sodomy, masturbation, transsɛҳuąƖism, LGBT, "white people are the devil", BLM, Critical Race theory --and that's before 2nd grade. This is 2021, not 1985. The world has changed since GenX went to school in the 80's and early 90's. And those horrible things I listed? That's in rural conservative areas. The big cities are much worse! I'm only half-joking here. My point is: it's not just abuses in a few highly liberal places where garbage like this is poured into childrens' minds. It's literally EVERYWHERE. North Dakota. Texas. Red states. Blue states. Rural/urban. Doesn't matter.

Do you know the average age kids first see pornography? Age 9. Listen to a few podcasts by Jonathon Van Maren for a real eye-opener on this heading. It's the truth. You can deny it if you like, but that doesn't invalidate it. Unless your children are sheltered, they WILL be exposed to porno at a young age. And the worst kind of porno too! Not simply playboy and 70's era soft porn. Not just the lingerie section of the Sears catalog. We're talking gangbanging, inter-racial, degrading, perverted stuff that can't even be named. AT AGE NINE. In ALL public schools nationwide.

I don't see how mortal sin could be avoided, sending children into certain loss of Faith like that. How could Trads do that? Why did they leave the Novus Ordo, only to sign up their children in the devil's own schools? Insanity.


Better for your children to be uneducated, with a literal 2nd grade education, than to lose their souls in modern-day public schools. Janitors can save their souls, you know.
My son has never attended public school, and as long as I have a breath of life in me, he will never attend the government-run schools.  My attorney obtained for me, as part of our divorce settlement, ultimate decision-making authority, with ability to trump my wife's wishes to the contrary, and that is something that NO still-legally-married father EVER has.  I used this authority to prevent my son from being prescribed ADD dope, the school strongly recommended it (they routinely seek to "medicate the boy out of" their more challenging male pupils), my wife was all in favor, but I said no way.

At the high school my son would attend, if I were "out of the picture" and his mother and her illicit consort had full custody, there was a cryptically reported news story not long ago, about a young boy who was sɛҳuąƖly assaulted by a group of male peers.  While it was not rape per se --- the news reports disclosed that much --- it was a type of gross sɛҳuąƖ imposition, I have a pretty good idea what it was, but decency prevents me from discussing it in more detail.  She'd be perfectly okay with him attending such a school, in the name of "socialization" and being part of the "collective".  I would not be.  That's one reason I drive defensively with maximum attention, and have my health carefully monitored by my doctor.  I cannot die until he attains majority, and God willing, for a long time past that.  I want to be a crusty old GrandDad doting on his babies.  Nil sine numine.