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Title: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 02:43:21 PM
Please say some prayers for us and our van.  We had the oil pump replaced recently and the last 2 Sundays it has broken down on the way back from Mass.  We towed it to the original shop that did the work on it last Sunday but they fixed something small and said it was all better.  So, we are having it towed to an actual Honda shop today.

We never had any major issues with it before the oil pump was replaced and we are worried that something might have been damaged at the shop when they were putting things back together for the oil pump.  It only has about 85k miles on is and we still have 3 1/2 years of the loan to pay for it.

Anyhow...  Prayers would be greatly appreciated.  A friend ours is worried that the master computer may be failing and if that happens we might have to get a different van and pay 2 car loans.

Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Fiorenza on July 27, 2025, 02:50:11 PM
:pray:
Hopefully the inspection should go fine.

Did you use manufacturer or aftermarket parts with the original shop? Sometimes aftermarket can be the only feasible option though.

Perhaps it was a seal or a gasket?
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 03:09:04 PM
:pray:
Hopefully the inspection should go fine.

Did you use manufacturer or aftermarket parts with the original shop? Sometimes aftermarket can be the only feasible option though.

Perhaps it was a seal or a gasket?
I have no idea what was used...  But the original car shop did say something about ordering the wrong part twice...and the fix was only supposed to take 3 days but took over a week.  I guess that is suspicious. 😅

The car had "check charging system" come on and the battery light.  The the ABS and slippery road lights came on.  Then all the lights on the dashboard and gauges started going crazy and completely went out.  And then the van stopped working completely.

The first time it happened on the freeway.  The 2nd time in town.  Trying to shuffled 4 little boys and get back home in a different vehicle has been exciting. Oh...  And we have a new battery.  😅
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: WorldsAway on July 27, 2025, 03:31:07 PM
:pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: songbird on July 27, 2025, 03:53:09 PM
If a gasket is required, have it in writing.  Some states allow for silicon to be used instead of gasket.  Silicon holds up for maybe 6 months and breaks down.

As for the Honda, good news! My husbands cousins husband worked for Honda dealerships throughout the US.  He says that the engine should last 300,000 miles!

We have a Honda Pilot at 100,000 and she is a 2006.  So, hold on to a good vehicle. 
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Fiorenza on July 27, 2025, 06:13:26 PM
I have no idea what was used...  But the original car shop did say something about ordering the wrong part twice...and the fix was only supposed to take 3 days but took over a week.  I guess that is suspicious. 😅

The car had "check charging system" come on and the battery light.  The the ABS and slippery road lights came on.  Then all the lights on the dashboard and gauges started going crazy and completely went out.  And then the van stopped working completely.

The first time it happened on the freeway.  The 2nd time in town.  Trying to shuffled 4 little boys and get back home in a different vehicle has been exciting. Oh...  And we have a new battery.  😅
Hopefully they check the parts and the installation and make sure it has been done right. They have obviously spent time trying to fix the problem so here's hoping their work is mostly good and just needs some revision.

A new battery should help with that warning light
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 06:37:28 PM
:pray:
Thank you!  
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 06:39:55 PM
If a gasket is required, have it in writing.  Some states allow for silicon to be used instead of gasket.  Silicon holds up for maybe 6 months and breaks down.

As for the Honda, good news! My husbands cousins husband worked for Honda dealerships throughout the US.  He says that the engine should last 300,000 miles!

We have a Honda Pilot at 100,000 and she is a 2006.  So, hold on to a good vehicle.
Oh!  Good suggestions! Thank you!  :cowboy:

Our last Honda, made it up very high in mileage before it died.  It is a good van over all.  Just hoping it isn't something very big wrong with it.  We only got it (used) last May and still have quite a bit to pay off.  It has been a great van over all until this complication. 😅
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 06:40:30 PM
Hopefully they check the parts and the installation and make sure it has been done right. They have obviously spent time trying to fix the problem so here's hoping their work is mostly good and just needs some revision.

A new battery should help with that warning light
Definitely hoping and praying for that!  Thank you! :pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 27, 2025, 06:41:12 PM
Please say some prayers for us and our van.  We had the oil pump replaced recently and the last 2 Sundays it has broken down on the way back from Mass.  We towed it to the original shop that did the work on it last Sunday but they fixed something small and said it was all better.  So, we are having it towed to an actual Honda shop today.

We never had any major issues with it before the oil pump was replaced and we are worried that something might have been damaged at the shop when they were putting things back together for the oil pump.  It only has about 85k miles on is and we still have 3 1/2 years of the loan to pay for it.

Anyhow...  Prayers would be greatly appreciated.  A friend ours is worried that the master computer may be failing and if that happens we might have to get a different van and pay 2 car loans.
There's an easy and zero cost way to fix the master computer. Would you like to know? 
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 06:44:03 PM
There's an easy and zero cost way to fix the master computer. Would you like to know?
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 27, 2025, 06:46:36 PM
:popcorn:
Is that a passive "yes"? Is your pride too much for you to give a direct answer and admit you'd appreciate help from me - a "troll"? :smirk:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 06:50:59 PM
Is that a passive "yes"? Is your pride too much for you to give a direct answer and admit you'd appreciate help from me - a "troll"? :smirk:
It is my husband's domain to decide about the van not mine.  My job is to pray and make the cookies.  ;)
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 27, 2025, 06:52:01 PM
It is my husband's domain to decide about the van not mine.  My job is to pray and make the cookies.  ;)
Really? Is that why you posted a thread about it? ;)
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 27, 2025, 06:55:56 PM
Really? Is that why you posted a thread about it? ;)
Yep.  I asked for prayers not a diagnosis. 😅
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 27, 2025, 06:58:53 PM
Yep.  I asked for prayers not a diagnosis. 😅
Is not a diagnosis an answer to prayer? :confused: :smirk:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: St Giles on July 27, 2025, 07:09:38 PM
:pray:

Electrical problems, such as crazy computer problems, are likely loose or dirty electrical connections, whether it be where the computer connects to the battery terminals (if it does directly), or any connector may need cleaning and adjustment, which can be tedious and requires patience and skill. In very old cars, wire insulation can fail either by cracking and falling apart, especially in places exposed to much heat, or long term vibration wears a hole into the insulation causing a short. 

Most anything can be fixed, it's just a matter of time, cost, and the knowledge and skill of the particular repair man. If they say it can't be fixed, they just don't know how, or think (and could be right) that the cost to fix is higher than another car. That being said, computers can be repaired, rebuilt, or replaced. I don't know the cost, but replacing with an identical used one from a junkyard would be the only option likely less than $1-2k (just a guess).

Your husband should try searching for similar problems with that model of car to see what others have found it out to be, just in case the Honda dealer has troubles figuring it out. Dealers like quick fixes, so if that means just swapping out parts rather than identifying the exact problem and cause, it could cost a lot.
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: St Giles on July 27, 2025, 07:14:53 PM
There's an easy and zero cost way to fix the master computer. Would you like to know?
Just volunteer the info, don't hang it over her head.
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 27, 2025, 07:17:44 PM
Simple, zero cost, ten minute fix for the master computer. Just ask.

Is your disdain for a "troll" greater than your gratitude to God sending you someone to answer your prayer for a diagnosis/fix?
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 27, 2025, 07:34:31 PM
Just volunteer the info, don't hang it over her head.

Did Jesus volunteer and initiate to heal the woman in Luke 8:43-48, or did the woman initiate contact with Jesus so she might be healed? Jesus knew she was ill but He did not heal her until she reached out to him.

Jesus says, "When you see Me, you see the Father in Heaven"

Jesus, also, says to us, "Be like your Father in Heaven"
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Giovanni Berto on July 27, 2025, 08:46:20 PM
Did Jesus volunteer and initiate to heal the woman in Luke 8:43-48, or did the woman initiate contact with Jesus so she might be healed? Jesus knew she was ill but He did not heal her until she reached out to him.

Jesus says, "When you see Me, you see the Father in Heaven"

Jesus, also, says to us, "Be like your Father in Heaven"

So, you make an analogy on which you are Our Lord Jesus Christ and other people are the sick who need to be healed? :laugh2:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Stubborn on July 28, 2025, 05:29:37 AM
:pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on July 28, 2025, 09:36:47 AM
I’m praying for you, your family and van.  

If you get a new battery, make sure you check the date.  Many places are selling expired batteries.  
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: moneil on July 28, 2025, 09:50:15 AM
:pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: jersey60 on July 28, 2025, 09:57:47 AM
Simple, zero cost, ten minute fix for the master computer. Just ask.

Is your disdain for a "troll" greater than your gratitude to God sending you someone to answer your prayer for a diagnosis/fix?
Or you really have no idea on how to fix her problem?
Someone needs help and this is how you act??
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: caxap on July 28, 2025, 04:12:36 PM
Or you really have no idea on how to fix her problem?
Someone needs help and this is how you act??
That dog won't hunt. Your IQ is low, partly because of your vulture diet of high fats and very low carbs/sugar. It's clogging your brain's arteries and capillaries. 
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 29, 2025, 05:43:58 AM
Thank you for all the prayers.  The shop wasn't able to look at our van yesterday but we have an official appointment for this morning.  :pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: St Giles on July 29, 2025, 08:58:32 AM
The more I think about it, the more I think it is a poor connection in an electrical connector. Some of those are best left alone, because the disturbance of unplugging and plugging in, like what happens during repairs, can cause problems, and some of those computers and sensors are very sensitive. Problems like that have left me in the habit of inspecting, cleaning and adjusting the contacts in connectors, because even good looking ones can have problems, and younger engineers may not have the experience or foresight to design connectors and tolerance specs to prevent these problems from happening in the short term.
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Twice dyed on July 29, 2025, 10:40:27 AM
For what it's worth, I 've " fixed" GM vehicles that start to show wierd alert lights, even heater blower erractic functioning, just by removing BOTH battery connections for 3 hours.  
As Mark says, those circuit boards are not very robust. Even my Fridgidaire fridge, when it decides to get stuck in defrost mode, I found out you have to hit the light switch 5 x in 6 seconds to reset..so today's amenities are too touchy. I "fixed " quite a few washing machines, dishwashers, simply by pulling the plug for 2 hours. Google is great to find simple tricks, save $.
Hope you find an easy Google solution for dah van. 
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: songbird on July 29, 2025, 02:37:11 PM
Twice dyed, thank you for your post!  Like my dad used to say in the early 70's, the more you have on your car, be it an electrical window, or any extras, the more the goes wrong.  The less the better.  I have a 2005 Honda Pilot.  I love it!! I saw a lady with a honda pilot 2023 and so many gadgets.  She says it is in the shop too much.  Yep, those things she spoke of, I did not have, and don't have a need of
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 31, 2025, 05:15:03 PM
Thank you for the prayers everyone!  We finally just heard back from the shop... 

"From CMA Honda:
Vehicle is in the shop, technicians are not sure of source causing the problems. Testing the entire charging system individually.
-- Z.M."


So, we could definitely use more prayers. :pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Twice dyed on July 31, 2025, 06:51:18 PM
Looks serious by the look of things.
But somewhere in all the regulations that pertain to car manufacturers, if the Authorized Dealer cannot find the problem and repair your vehicle , then they HAVE TO PAY you the  fair market value of your Van. I know this is the case in Ontario, Canada. Are u feeling less stress now?
Pray.
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: WorldsAway on July 31, 2025, 06:56:48 PM
:pray:
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on July 31, 2025, 07:33:53 PM
Looks serious by the look of things.
But somewhere in all the regulations that pertain to car manufacturers, if the Authorized Dealer cannot find the problem and repair your vehicle , then they HAVE TO PAY you the  fair market value of your Van. I know this is the case in Ontario, Canada. Are u feeling less stress now?
Pray.
Wow!  Really!?  I never have heard of that before!!!  Thank you so much for mentioning it! 

We have had it for under 1 1/2 years and so still have over 3 1/2 years worth of a car loan on it.  Hopefully we can at least cover the loan if it has to be totaled.  🙏😇
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: soft pillow on July 31, 2025, 09:58:49 PM
  A friend ours is worried that the master computer may be failing and if that happens we might have to get a different van and pay 2 car loans.

Doing This Will Reset Your Car’s Computer and Fix It for Free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3sLyrQgqs
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on August 01, 2025, 08:05:19 AM
Doing This Will Reset Your Car’s Computer and Fix It for Free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3sLyrQgqs

I was reading about this earlier. Thanks for sharing!   :cowboy:

We did have the battery completely replaced before the 2nd fail and tow though....  And everything was disconnected for quite awhile while that was being done.  So, I am guessing that it is something bigger...
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on August 01, 2025, 08:07:58 AM
Looks serious by the look of things.
But somewhere in all the regulations that pertain to car manufacturers, if the Authorized Dealer cannot find the problem and repair your vehicle , then they HAVE TO PAY you the  fair market value of your Van. I know this is the case in Ontario, Canada. Are u feeling less stress now?
Pray.
I was thinking about this more last night...  I wonder if it just pertains to new cars straight from the dealership?

We bought ours used from a 2nd hand dealer...but never had trouble with it until the car shop replaced the oil pump.  My husband thinks the car shop might have messed something up and has talked about possibly making a small claims case against them.  But first we would need the actual Honda place to verify damages.  😅
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: Twice dyed on August 01, 2025, 09:34:30 AM
I see that the USA has so-called " lemon laws". I suggest you keep a detailed diary about who, when what etc. repaired your vehicle. You probably need a  new electronic brain board.
God help you+
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on August 01, 2025, 04:58:18 PM
My husband got a call from the car shop.  He says that our Honda mechanic determined that our 2011 Honda Odyssey's spool valve failed and leaked oil all over the alternator, ruining it.

Apparently when that happens the engine can often catch on fire.  So...  We are blessed that we safely made it home twice when the car failed instead of it catching on fire.  I can't even imagine what that would have been like with all the kids...  Someone could have been seriously hurt...

Thankfully, the car is fixable and it wasn't computer related.  A family member also offered to cover 4/5 of the costs of the repairs.  Thank you so much everyone for all of the prayers! 
Title: Re: Prayers for Van
Post by: AMDGJMJ on August 06, 2025, 09:08:31 AM
We finally got our van back yesterday evening and it seems to be doing well.  Thank you so much everyone for all of the prayers!  May God bless you!