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Offline Donachie

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Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2023, 05:17:40 PM »
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  • So we need to give billions of American dollars and weapons to the Ukraine, so that we (they) can get rid of the evil Putin. That's what the neo-cons said about Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and many others. It will help the weapons manufacturers to get even richer (and the congressmen who support them). The U.S. always has to highlight a big bad guy, in order to keep their profitable businesses going.

    And yes, the Ukraine should just surrender and shut up. It would save them from even more loss of life - since I'm pretty sure that the great Zelensky doesn't care about the loss of life. And it might prevent the situation from escalating into WIII.
    So you feel money motivated about it? Is that it? You want your American money back?

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #61 on: May 17, 2023, 05:28:24 PM »
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  • So you feel money motivated about it? Is that it? You want your American money back?

    Yeah, it would be nice to have the money back that was given to Ukraine. Give that money for a good cause, rather than to further American neo-cons (which includes the Israelis) as well as American capitalist interests. Remember the business interests that the Biden crime family had going on in the Ukraine? I seem to recall too that Ukraine was big on money-laundering. Not to mention the LGBT agenda as promoted by the great Zelensky, which mirrors the U.S. LGBT agenda.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #62 on: May 17, 2023, 05:41:33 PM »
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  • The "American money" isn't as American as people out there may typically imagine anyway. It's just debt to the private interests who control the Federal Reserve and Wall Street. If you support Jewtini's Kremlin because you want honest accounting from the DC gubbament, and you are angry at Bud-Light, that's a way to look at it, but I don't think it's a very good analysis or emotional basis. I really would join  the prayers here, that you'd have a better portion.

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #63 on: May 17, 2023, 05:49:20 PM »
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  • The "American money" isn't as American as people out there may typically imagine anyway. It's just debt to the private interests who control the Federal Reserve and Wall Street. If you support Jєωtini's Kremlin because you want honest accounting from the DC gubbament, and you are angry at Bud-Light, that's a way to look at it, but I don't think it's a very good analysis or emotional basis. I really would join  the prayers here, that you'd have a better portion.

    We pay taxes here in the U.S - to the "gubbament." Not sure where you live - maybe you don't pay taxes, and therefore you don't understand how it works.

    If you strive to support the neo-con agenda against Russia, that's your choice. The government of my country (U.S.) has had a corrupt element going for quite awhile. It's not new. I'm not going to pretend that leadership in Russia is somehow worse than my own sad country. Here in the U.S., it's all about the money, and control of the population. They go hand in hand.



    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #64 on: May 17, 2023, 05:55:05 PM »
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  • Meg, it would be great if you could find some time for your children and grandchildren instead of polluting my thread with your Soviet rhetoric. You complain about the Cold War and neoconnery, but engage in the very same language used by the Soviet Union. You need to look into that.

    Also, while it is good that you can accept our prayers, you need a lot more of them, for issues outside of the topic of Russia, Putin, et al.


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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #65 on: May 17, 2023, 05:56:37 PM »
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  • Meg, it would be great if you could find some time for your children and grandchildren instead of polluting my thread with your outdated Soviet rhetoric.

    It is good that you can accept our prayers. You need a lot more of them, for issues outside of the topic of Russia, Putin, et al.

    If you start a thread to "pray" for those who disagree with you, you have to expect some disagreement. I am free to reply to "your" thread. You don't own the forum, or the thread.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #66 on: May 17, 2023, 06:00:05 PM »
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  • If you start a thread to "pray" for those who disagree with you, you have to expect some disagreement.
    Okay, great, you disagree. We understand. But you can't respond to information outside of your narrow Soviet worldview, so we are way past any kind of usefulness in your replies. No one cares to read you repost your position for five more pages. Go ahead and move on.

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #67 on: May 17, 2023, 06:02:33 PM »
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  • Okay, great, you disagree. We understand. But you can't respond to information outside of your narrow Soviet worldview, so we are way past any kind of usefulness in your replies. No one cares to read you repost your position for five more pages. Go ahead and move on.

    No need to read or respond to my posts. I understand if you want to ignore them. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #68 on: May 17, 2023, 06:04:32 PM »
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  • No need to read or respond to my posts. I understand if you want to ignore them.
    Post your own thread.

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #69 on: May 17, 2023, 06:37:32 PM »
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  • We pay taxes here in the U.S - to the "gubbament." Not sure where you live - maybe you don't pay taxes, and therefore you don't understand how it works.

    If you strive to support the neo-con agenda against Russia, that's your choice. The government of my country (U.S.) has had a corrupt element going for quite awhile. It's not new. I'm not going to pretend that leadership in Russia is somehow worse than my own sad country. Here in the U.S., it's all about the money, and control of the population. They go hand in hand.
    I think the income tax is unconstitutuional and the IRS is not far behind and should be abolished. I don't support the neo-cons or DC gubbament corruption.

    Marian apparitions are private revelations, so not to exaggerate how they may be received in questions of international law, but there was a Marian apparition in Hrushiv, Ukraine and another in Lithuania. Catholics here have already heard of Czestochowa and Fatima. Sort of Ukrainian colors here with the blue and gold.



    https://newpathway.ca/the-holy-mother-has-special-meaning-for-ukrainians/
    https://www.ourladyofsiluva.org/our_lady/

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #70 on: May 17, 2023, 06:42:47 PM »
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  • from the New Pathway article in explanation of the icon: 




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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #71 on: May 17, 2023, 06:54:44 PM »
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  • I think the income tax is unconstitutuional and the IRS is not far behind and should be abolished. I don't support the neo-cons or DC gubbament corruption.

    Marian apparitions are private revelations, so not to exaggerate how they may be received in questions of international law, but there was a Marian apparition in Hrushiv, Ukraine and another in Lithuania. Catholics here have already heard of Czestochowa and Fatima. Sort of Ukrainian colors here with the blue and gold.



    https://newpathway.ca/the-holy-mother-has-special-meaning-for-ukrainians/
    https://www.ourladyofsiluva.org/our_lady/

    Yes, income tax is, as you say, unconstitutional. I very much agree. I especially think that property tax is a bad thing, since Americans can be kicked out of their homes if they don't pay property tax. Glad to see that you do not support the neo-cons or DC gubbament corruption.

    I read last week about the Marian apparition that you refer to here, and did a google search about it, since I was curious as to whether or not there was ever a Marian apparition in Ukraine. The Holy Mother reportedly said that dangers would come from Russia, and that prayers were needed for Russia. I find it heartening that she asked for prayers for Russia. Surely she cared about Russia and its people, as well as the Ukrainian people. I think that Russia could be used by God as a chastisement. God generally punishes for lack of obedience to His law.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #72 on: May 17, 2023, 07:29:49 PM »
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  • I google/Jewgle "Minsk Talks" and see Al Jazeera has un articulo about it o'.



    ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic controlled banking and finance and talk-shop can get tricky. So that's something to pray about too. If one were to get involved in some foolishness, and some V2 Novus Ordo Missae general intercessions, the things one could ask for ...

    ... that "Pope" Francis and ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic controlled NASA would fall right off the bridge

    "Lord, hear our prayer" ...

    ... that the American farm, in general to a fair degree, would have no debt and be free of all machinations and diabolical ingrigues from (((Bill Gates))) or Yehuda Abramovich or whatever his name is

    "Lord, hear our prayer" ...

    ... that Dr. Fauci and Albert Bourla and BlackRock Inc. will get theirs

    "Lord, hear our prayer"

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #73 on: May 18, 2023, 07:59:38 AM »
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  • I'm curious.  Is it "allowed" to remain skeptical of/lack trust for both sides?  Or do I need your prayers too?

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    Re: Prayers for those deceived by Russian/Soviet/Communist propaganda
    « Reply #74 on: May 18, 2023, 08:19:06 AM »
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  • ...Is it "allowed" to remain skeptical of/lack trust for both sides?...

    ;)

    “It's easy to be a naive idealist. It's easy to be a cynical realist. It's quite another thing to have no illusions and still hold the inner flame.”
     M.-L. von Franz