Asking for prayers for a priest he knows who was found frozen in snow and tomorrow they are going to amputate both hands and feet. They are praying for a miracle. Father William Welsh and he is 67 yrs. Ex SSPX.
:pray:I think he ended up being a chaplain at Thomas A. Nelson’s private chapel at TAN Books (also located in Rockford, IL back then), but not sure for how long, or where he went after that.
Thanks for the insight, Sean. He was living out of his car? What a difficult life he had remaining faithful to Tradition. Many chapels would have loved to have him and given him a place to live.
Does anyone know how he ended up frozen like that?
I think he ended up being a chaplain at Thomas A. Nelson’s private chapel at TAN Books (also located in Rockford, IL back then), but not sure for how long, or where he went after that.
Yes, I also am wondering how he ended up frozen outside. Sheesh.
Does anyone know how he ended up frozen like that?.
If Father is still a wanderer living from his car, who will support/take care of him when he's released from the hospital?Let's do it. I'm in for a modest amount (all I can manage right now, my car may be dying and I may need to go ahead and get that used Camry I've been talking about on here).
Maybe this is one time Go Fund Me could/should be employed.
Surely there are enough trads to support Father.
An opportunity for trads to put their money where their mouth is.
Father will be in the hospital for a while. If Matthew could find out details for us we could be ready by the time he is in rehab.If I am understanding the situation correctly, when someone has to go into a nursing home, first, they take everything you have --- Social Security, any assets aside from the primary residence owned free and clear (I doubt he would have all that much), pension, whatever --- as well as, I would assume, anything you come into (such as GoFundMe proceeds, though those could be donated to a third party) --- and only when you are flat broke, penniless, then Medicare kicks in, and the invalid can't simply be put out on the street. Bottom line, the nursing home gets their money, as long as there's any money there left to get. Supposedly (IANA lawyer), your primary residence, if you own one, if sheltered for the remainder of your life, but when you die, they get any money they need from the proceeds of the estate.
Also CI members often mention other sites they are on. Maybe they would post elsewhere when it is set up.
First we have to find out who Father has appointed his next of kin/guardian at the hospital so they can be put on the Go Fund Me site as this is who Father obviously trusts.
I think Father will be in a nursing home the rest of his life.
Will they demand the money from Go Fund Me?
If I am understanding the situation correctly, when someone has to go into a nursing home, first, they take everything you have --- Social Security, any assets aside from the primary residence owned free and clear (I doubt he would have all that much), pension, whatever --- as well as, I would assume, anything you come into (such as GoFundMe proceeds, though those could be donated to a third party) --- and only when you are flat broke, penniless, then Medicare kicks in, and the invalid can't simply be put out on the street. Bottom line, the nursing home gets their money, as long as there's any money there left to get. Supposedly (IANA lawyer), your primary residence, if you own one, if sheltered for the remainder of your life, but when you die, they get any money they need from the proceeds of the estate.I think you're on to something with a third party. My husband tells me Go Fund Me even takes a good chunk from the donations.
And that's why I pay $29 every month for long term care insurance through Aetna. It seems like money wasted... until it's not.
I think you're on to something with a third party. My husband tells me Go Fund Me even takes a good chunk from the donations.Whoever runs GoFundMe has to pay the various expenses (including salaries, if they have employees) one way or the other.
Surely Father was in touch with other independent priests. Perhaps one of them would be willing to administer a trust fund for Father..... as long as it isn't Father Pfeiffer.
Don’t let up with prayers, still no surgery yet, waiting to see if / will recover. Looks like there’s a crack in the foundation now since from what I understood they were to have removed his hand/feet yesterday and they still haven’t. What made the doctors decide to “hold off” with the amputations? Don’t get lax, keep up the prayers and offerings! We’re not out of the woods yet. I hope it doesn’t come down to any limbs being removed.
S.
Don’t let up with prayers, still no surgery yet, waiting to see if / will recover. Looks like there’s a crack in the foundation now since from what I understood they were to have removed his hand/feet yesterday and they still haven’t. What made the doctors decide to “hold off” with the amputations? Don’t get lax, keep up the prayers and offerings! We’re not out of the woods yet. I hope it doesn’t come down to any limbs being removed.Thank you, S and Matthew, for that. I felt sure that such drastic measures could be avoided in this day and age. :pray: :pray: :pray:
S.
Fr. Welsh's hands and feet have not been amputated and there is no surgery scheduled for him (as of 2/16).
I believe the hospital staff is doing a "wait and see" to monitor his healing. Fr. Welsh may eventually need to have one or more digits removed.
[The original email] is from a man who visited Fr. Welsh in the hospital and spoke with the nursing staff.
Thanks for your prayers. Please keep Fr. Welsh in your prayers.
I have been praying for this priest and he is often in my thoughts. Does anyone have an update?
Still no sensation in his hand nor feet, so as of now it doesn’t look good so time is running out, so prayers have to continue.
Just found out today some sketchy details that he is declining amputations and he and a friend are searching for a nursing facility that will take him in to see if his situation improves there.
Keep praying that Gods Will be done in his life. Keep me posted if you hear anything as well!
Steve
Suppose Steve told you he had to have all fingers and toes removed.
He is confined to a wheel chair.
Poor man.
Sad that he likely can't say Mass anymore. He could probably preach, but that's it.I'm not clear on what is going on here. Has Fr Welsh had to have his fingers and toes removed, or is that just something that is a possibility?
Sad that he likely can't say Mass anymore. He could probably preach, but that's it.
Well, he could privately offer Mass with assistance, where another priest would help him.I hadn't thought of that, but my question then would be, does the celebrating priest actually have to touch the large host and the chalice with his fingers (obviously he does not touch each and every host in the ciborium, yet they are all consecrated), and does he have to elevate the consecrated host and the chalice? I refer not so much to validity, as I refer to licitness according to traditional rubrics.
I hadn't thought of that, but my question then would be, does the celebrating priest actually have to touch the large host and the chalice with his fingers (obviously he does not touch each and every host in the ciborium, yet they are all consecrated), and does he have to elevate the consecrated host and the chalice? I refer not so much to validity, as I refer to licitness according to traditional rubrics.
And he would actually have to be the priest celebrating, as the TLM is not concelebrated (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that).
He's supposed to touch the host and elevate the host and ciborium, but that's the NORMAL rule and concessions have always been made for circuмstances such as this. I wasn't referring to a concelebration but physical assistance. Priests are also supposed to genuflect and do other things, but priests who cannot were allowed to offer Mass sitting down, etc.Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks for the clarification
He's supposed to touch the host and elevate the host and ciborium, but that's the NORMAL rule and concessions have always been made for circuмstances such as this. I wasn't referring to a concelebration but physical assistance. Priests are also supposed to genuflect and do other things, but priests who cannot were allowed to offer Mass sitting down, etc.Thanks for the information. I didn't know if the pre-V2 Church made such exceptions, or if the Mass had to be celebrated strictly according to the rubrics. I thought I remembered one of the North American Martyrs getting a dispensation from Rome to celebrate Mass even though his fingers were mutilated by the natives, indicating to me, that in the absence of such a dispensation, he would have been considered physically irregular for celebrating Mass.