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Re: Prayers for Father Joseph Collins
« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2019, 04:22:51 PM »
[font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]Father Collins, while independent and with specific beliefs, held his fellow clergy in high esteem and would not want fellow Catholics to be arguing like this.  And certainly not disparaging each other or clergy.  It's such a shame this is where it is at.  I can verify however as a personal friend of Father Collins and directly involved in conversations whereby Bishop Dolan was most certainly requested to offer his Requiem Mass, even to the point that the obituary that was written with Father while alive included a request that donations be made in his in his name to Bishop Daniel Dolan / St. Gertrude the Great Chapel, in part to cover expenses that he and necessary clergy would incur while traveling to New York.  Based on this and the steps that were taken while Father was alive, and the coordination necessary to provide the type of Mass Father requested, it is understandable that Bishop Dolan would feel less than favorable at being dismissed from the entire equation.   I think most everyone else would as well. This is an unfortunate situation where many things are being thrown around, some might be valid and others definitely not.  In either case, I urge you to pray on things prior to posting information, especially as it relates to detracting from others and reflect instead on the repose of Father Collins soul, which is where our concentration should lie. [/font][/font][/color]

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Re: Prayers for Father Joseph Collins
« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2019, 04:26:02 PM »
No, Father Collins considered the Thuc line valid.  So, he most certainly would want Bishop Dolan.  

OK, then he might have some other reason for wanting someone else.


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Re: Prayers for Father Joseph Collins
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2019, 04:27:44 PM »
So now the claim is that Father Collins wanted +Dolan but that the executor dismissed +Dolan?

MariaAuxliadora:
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Fr. Collins had requested 4 priests and a specific bishop to do his Requiem Mass and neither +Dolan or Fr. Cekada were named.

So, this is ambiguous now.  Does his mean that Fr. Collins requested +Dolan but the executor "did not name" them?

So this executor called +Dolan, but +Dolan never called him back?  Why?  Was it because +Dolan wasn't allowed to have the Mass on the day he wanted it?

Why are the NINE such drama queens about everything?

Re: Prayers for Father Joseph Collins
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2019, 04:28:31 PM »
[font=.SF UI Text][font=.SFUIText]Father Collins, while independent and with specific beliefs, held his fellow clergy in high esteem and would not want fellow Catholics to be arguing like this.  And certainly not disparaging each other or clergy.  It's such a shame this is where it is at.  I can verify however as a personal friend of Father Collins and directly involved in conversations whereby Bishop Dolan was most certainly requested to offer his Requiem Mass, even to the point that the obituary that was written with Father while alive included a request that donations be made in his in his name to Bishop Daniel Dolan / St. Gertrude the Great Chapel, in part to cover expenses that he and necessary clergy would incur while traveling to New York.  Based on this and the steps that were taken while Father was alive, and the coordination necessary to provide the type of Mass Father requested, it is understandable that Bishop Dolan would feel less than favorable at being dismissed from the entire equation.   I think most everyone else would as well. This is an unfortunate situation where many things are being thrown around, some might be valid and others definitely not.  In either case, I urge you to pray on things prior to posting information, especially as it relates to detracting from others and reflect instead on the repose of Father Collins soul, which is where our concentration should lie. [/font][/font]
Thank you for sharing that.    :pray:

Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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Re: Prayers for Father Joseph Collins
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2019, 05:08:12 PM »
So now the claim is that Father Collins wanted +Dolan but that the executor dismissed +Dolan?

MariaAuxliadora:
So, this is ambiguous now.  Does his mean that Fr. Collins requested +Dolan but the executor "did not name" them?

So this executor called +Dolan, but +Dolan never called him back?  Why?  Was it because +Dolan wasn't allowed to have the Mass on the day he wanted it?

Why are the NINE such drama queens about everything?

See the second quote on post # 51 (link below). One of the priests, who was not authorized, called +Dolan and Fr. Cekada, not the executor. Read previous posts on page 3 by AMDGJMJ and mine. I can assure you that there is no more trustworthy person than the executor to follow Father's wishes or one who loved him more. His family included.

https://www.cathinfo.com/the-sacred-catholic-liturgy-chant-prayers/prayers-for-father-joseph-collins/msg652263/#msg652263