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Offline McFiggly

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Pray for Jehanne
« on: January 14, 2016, 05:49:30 PM »
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  • I was researching implicit faith and came across a Catholic blog. I noticed that in the latest post on the blog the Catholic owner of the blog describes how he has lost the faith and is now, in his own words, "an apostate atheist". At the bottom of each of his blogposts is the name, Jehanne. I remember coming across this name on Cathinfo. I did a search and, sure enough, this blog belongs to the same Jehanne who was once an active poster on this site. The blogpost in which he renounces the faith is very recent. It mentions the recent Synod. Jehanne seems to have been extremely scandalised by the Synod and by the papacy of Francis in general:

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    Vatican II, Popes Paul VI, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI all wrote with grey pens, embracing the Leftist agenda while keeping the Ball "on the court," so to speak.  But, with Francis, now there are "certain cases" (read:  everyone, eventually), who can receive the so-called Holy Eucharist, and then later that day (or, especially, the night before), go home and have sex with someone, whom they and everyone else agrees, is NOT their sacramental spouse.

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    Take these essays for what they were, one man who got duped, and who tried to make sense of a World religion who, with yet one more contradiction, has had enough.  Sorry, but I have much better things to do with my remaining time and life.  

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    As for Catholicism, it claims nothing; there is no "dogma" that cannot, at some future time, be reinterpreted, and after that, (re)reinterpreted by some "Pope".  It's all politics, positioning and maneuvering, which is why this Synod and its previous one took so long.  As one person wrote to me, "Today's dissent is tomorrow's dogma."  For what the present Church hierarchy has done with public adulterers, it (not she) can do with anything!  Just give it time; eventually, Catholicism will be devoid of claiming any existential truths whatsoever.  Folks, you might as well become "agnostic atheists," which is what I am going to call myself from now on.  Most scientists are that already:

    http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html

    Eventually, most churchmen will be firmly in that camp, also!  If you're a Catholic who embraces atheism, consider yourself to be "ahead of the curve"!  For, that's the direction that the Catholic Church is headed, one of pure naturalism.  All that modern churchmen want is money and power, and for some, a nearly endless supply of little boys.


    I won't post anymore from the blogpost or link to the blog, as it is full of the worst blasphemy. I don't advise anyone to look for it. There is nothing really there that I haven't told you about.

    The man is clearly very distressed. He has allowed himself to be scandalised to the highest degree by the crisis in the Church.
    Here is a sermon by an FSSP priest on scandal, where he talks about how it is a sin for us to allow ourselves to be scandalised, because the actions of others should not disturb our faith:
    http://www.sensustraditionis.org/webaudio/Sermons/Disk1/Scandal.mp3

    Here is a letter from a French Catholic in response to another French Catholic in the early 1970s who was thinking of abandoning the faith due to scandal. It's a very powerful letter urging us not to despair. He makes the salient point that the man thinking of abandoning the faith is not so much sinning against faith, as against hope, because he is allowing himself to despair due to scandal. I think Jehanne may have suffered the same. No doubt, he has now certainly sinned grievously against faith, but it seems as though he had been struggling with hope for a while first. The letter also points out that the Church has suffered through many a crisis and that it's part of the mystery of the cross that we have to remain faithful to Our Lord even when we are most confused, scandalised, and abandoned.
    http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2009-0930-ousset-cross.htm

    I cannot find anything on Jehanne's blog that would allow me to contact him. I can't leave any reply to his blogpost. So I have just made this message in the hope that you will pray for him, and perhaps that he might come across this post and be comforted if possible. If anyone can contact him perhaps you ought.

    We must pray in general for people who are losing the faith due to the scandal caused by heretics in the Church.

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in our hour of conflict; Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the Devil. May God restrain Him, we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, cast Satan into Hell, and with him all the other evil spirits, who wander through the world, for the ruin of souls. Amen.

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    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 05:58:07 PM »
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  • Thanks for sharing this.  I noticed that he had not been posting much as of late.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17


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    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 06:01:11 PM »
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  • So he'd rather become an Atheist rather than a sedevacantist?  What kind of brain washing is this person under?

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    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 06:04:02 PM »
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  • I'm very sorry for him and can understand his reasons.
    I would also add it doesn't seem to me he's scandalised more than (although heavy with emotional distress) logically unable to reconcile the contradictions in the CounterChurch.
    He seems to be first and foremost outraged by the heterodoxy displayed by Francis and the CoChurch in general, and their apparent ability/will of changing doctrine.

    He does make a reference to paedophilia in passing, but I imagine that is merely or partly just a gratuitous malice intended as a liberatory cry.


    It is one instance to be appalled at corruption, carnal above all, which has been relatively common in many ages in the Church, it's another entirely to be distressed by (what we think is) the Church actually embracing it doctrinally/pastorally.

    It's the same difference between a religious person SINNING even constantly while retaining and professing he is doing such, and an apostate (like many "christians" today) ceasing to consider their activities SINFUL, if not CELEBRATING them.
    Ex: The SODOMITE movement common to all "christian" churches


    Most in the N.O. seem to have accepted this (new provisions about ever changing doctrine-->Pilgrim Church), either due to indoctrination or self-delusion and they openly preach change; but for someone either very devout or moderately cynical, the mental stress can be just too much.


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    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 06:07:51 PM »
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  • Lord have mercy.
    Lord have mercy.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 06:31:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: McFiggly
    I cannot find anything on Jehanne's blog that would allow me to contact him. I can't leave any reply to his blogpost. So I have just made this message in the hope that you will pray for him, and perhaps that he might come across this post and be comforted if possible. If anyone can contact him perhaps you ought.


    If Telesphorus is active on any forums someone should mention it to him. He might have Jehanne's contact info, too.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 06:48:50 PM »
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  • The Jehanne from that blog appears as a female in the author's profile, whereas the Jehanne from Cathinfo was surely a male.

    I really hope it is not the same person, but regardless, I will pray for this soul who has fallen into apostasy.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 11:43:58 PM »
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  •  :pray: :pray: :pray:


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    « Reply #8 on: January 15, 2016, 03:37:08 AM »
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  • Quote from: Cantarella
    The Jehanne from that blog appears as a female in the author's profile, whereas the Jehanne from Cathinfo was surely a male.

    I really hope it is not the same person, but regardless, I will pray for this soul who has fallen into apostasy.


    If you google "[name of blog] + Cathinfo" you will see Cathinfo posts by Jehanne where he has linked to the very same blog calling it his own, proving that it is indeed his.

    Or you can use the Cathinfo Search function "[name of blog]" and see that he has linked to it numerous times.

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    « Reply #9 on: January 19, 2016, 09:13:17 AM »
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  • Quote from: McFiggly
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    The Jehanne from that blog appears as a female in the author's profile, whereas the Jehanne from Cathinfo was surely a male.

    I really hope it is not the same person, but regardless, I will pray for this soul who has fallen into apostasy.


    If you google "[name of blog] + Cathinfo" you will see Cathinfo posts by Jehanne where he has linked to the very same blog calling it his own, proving that it is indeed his.

    Or you can use the Cathinfo Search function "[name of blog]" and see that he has linked to it numerous times.


    I agree, it is certainly the same man. Back in October he made a post in the men's only forum with some very similar thoughts and quotations, though gave no sign of imminent apostasy.

     

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