Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10] 11 12 13

Author Topic: Pope has double pneumonia  (Read 33263 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ElwinRansom1970

  • Supporter
  • ***
  • Posts: 1031
  • Reputation: +786/-153
  • Gender: Male
  • γνῶθι σεαυτόν - temet nosce
Re: Pope has double pneumonia
« Reply #135 on: February 25, 2025, 07:36:16 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!1
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 24, 2025, 07:56:48 PM
    Well, sure, but speaking from a tactical perspective.  Let's say Sarah gets elected and he makes a show of disciplining a few of the more egregious heresiarchs among the episcopal ranks, perhaps frees up the Tridentine Mass again, reinstitutes the Motu, perhaps even strengthens it (preventing bishops from blocking it even in public), etc. ... I'm convinced that within a week, the SSPX will have been reabsorbed, from where its destruction will be complete ... leaving the remnant Traditionalists without even the SSPX as an option for Mass and Sacraments in an increasing number of cases.

    It's similar to what's happening with Trump.  Those on the Right were so fed up with Biden's extreme Leftism that now they are so taken with Trump's reaction against Biden, against government corruption, etc. ... that they'd follow Trump over the cliff, which is precisely here he ultimately intends to take them.  Similarly, after the Bergoglian era, a Sarah would be perceived as if he were a new St. Pius X, pursuant to this huge shift in the Overton window, and would IMMEDIATELY reel back in the fence-sitters like the Michael Matts, Taylor Marshalls, various other Motarian types into the Conciliar entity.  This Bergoglian era was given to them as the last chance to make up their minds, to determine which side of the fence they wanted to step off onto, but it may be coming to a close where if after ALL the heresy that Bergoglio has spewed, if they haven't woken up yet to the true nature of the Church and her eclipse during this Crisis, their window will have closed.  And not only would a Sarah reel back in the fence sitters (he might even restore Strickland to his "see" ... with Strickland having had time to wake up but refusing to), but he would undoubtedly reel back the entire SSPX hook, line, and sinker into the Conciliar Entity.
    I do agree. In such case, the SSPX will rush to te arms of the Modernists in Rome.
    Logged
    "I distrust every idea that does not seem obsolete and grotesque to my contemporaries."
    - Nicolás Gómez Dávila

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46667
    • Reputation: +27540/-5114
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #136 on: February 25, 2025, 09:27:09 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on February 25, 2025, 07:36:16 AM
    I do agree. In such case, the SSPX will rush to te arms of the Modernists in Rome.

    Yes, I'm convinced that if they roll out a Sarah, who then does things like reinstate and even promote Strickland, who rolls back some of the more egregious Bergoglian stuff like Amoris Laetitia, or at least provides some authentic interpretation that would interpret it away, and Fiducia Supplicans, restores the Ratzingerian Motu, and even sacks one or two or the more outrageous heresiarchs from among the bishops ... such a one would not only instantly reabsorb any of the fence-sitting Trad, Inc. types like Matt, Marshall, LifeSite, etc. ... but would also absorb SSPX into the Conciliar Entity so fast that our heads would be spinning.  Then they can finish off the bulk of the Traditional movement, the only real threat to their agenda

    That would actually be the brilliant move, but I just don't now how much time they have left.  They probably know when their 75- to 100- year window of oppportunity and power began, and this might actually be what Our Lord meant about even the elect being lost if the days were not shortened.  They may not have the luxury of time to just frog-boil the rest of the Trads and that might be what saves them in the end, a shortening of the time.

    If they reabsorbed the Trads, how many of them realize that the actual theological crisis in the Church involves the ecclesiology and soteriology?  So many are blinded by contempt for Father Feeney, foaming at the mouth at the mere mention of his name, despising him more than they do even Bergoglio, that they basically have the same ecclesiology as the Conciliars.
    Logged

    Offline Croagh Patrick

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 116
    • Reputation: +117/-2
    • Gender: Male
    • Could you not watch one hour with me.
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #137 on: February 25, 2025, 10:41:27 AM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
    • The most evident mark of God’s anger, and the most terrible castigation He can inflict upon the world, is manifest when He permits His people to fall into the hands of a clergy who are more in name than in deed, priests who practice the cruelty of ravening wolves rather than the charity and affection of devoted shepherds. They abandon the things of God to devote themselves to the things of the world and, in their saintly calling of holiness, they spend their time in profane and worldly pursuits. When God permits such things, it is a very positive proof that He is thoroughly angry with His people and is visiting His most dreadful wrath upon them.” 

    –Saint John Eudes 
    Logged

    Offline Yeti

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 4102
    • Reputation: +2417/-528
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #138 on: February 25, 2025, 02:38:27 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • It looks like Bergoglio has gotten a little better, and I think he has been upgraded to stable condition. I get the impression the doctors don't really know what the outcome is going to be.
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46667
    • Reputation: +27540/-5114
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #139 on: February 25, 2025, 02:47:48 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • I saw this on Twitter.  Only someone who's devil-possessed and sinning against the Holy Ghost could say this ...
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46667
    • Reputation: +27540/-5114
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #140 on: February 25, 2025, 02:49:27 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Yeti on February 25, 2025, 02:38:27 PM
    It looks like Bergoglio has gotten a little better, and I think he has been upgraded to stable condition. I get the impression the doctors don't really know what the outcome is going to be.

    I'm guessing they probably know more than they're letting on and that some of the "getting better" statements are just more delaying tactics, spin, politics, etc.  They're making contradictory statements from one day to the next, and I doubt they're THAT clueless, but rather that there's some deception going on.
    Logged

    Offline Minnesota

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2324
    • Reputation: +1311/-618
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #141 on: February 25, 2025, 07:28:16 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 25, 2025, 02:47:48 PM
    I saw this on Twitter.  Only someone who's devil-possessed and sinning against the Holy Ghost could say this ...

    I once saw a group on FB called, and this is not a joke: "Pope Francis: A Living Saint". 

    Logged
    Christ is Risen! He is risen indeed

    Offline cassini

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 3831
    • Reputation: +2869/-274
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #142 on: February 26, 2025, 04:43:05 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 25, 2025, 02:47:48 PM
    I saw this on Twitter.  Only someone who's devil-possessed and sinning against the Holy Ghost could say this ...


    But hasn't there been more papal saints in the Catholic Church since Vatican II than ever before.
    Obviously the holiest time ever in the Catholic Church.
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46667
    • Reputation: +27540/-5114
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #143 on: February 26, 2025, 07:06:01 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: cassini on February 26, 2025, 04:43:05 AM
    But hasn't there been more papal saints in the Catholic Church since Vatican II than ever before.
    Obviously the holiest time ever in the Catholic Church.

    Thank you for reminding us.  Not since the early says of the martyr popes has the Church been blessed with so long a line of one saint pope after another ... and ... yet ... some "smoke of Satan" or something must have fouled up all the tremendous work they've done to benefit the Church and instead turned these heroic saintly efforts towards the destruction of the Church.
    Logged

    Offline Geremia

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4774
    • Reputation: +1559/-361
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    he ‘continues to improve’ with prognosis still secret, Vatican reports. 🤦‍♂️
    « Reply #144 on: February 27, 2025, 06:40:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Geremia on February 24, 2025, 06:08:27 PM
    Quote from: ++Viganò, 2025-02-24
    The contradictory updates being given about Jorge Mario Bergoglio’s medical condition
    He "‘continues to improve’ with prognosis still secret, Vatican reports". That statement is contradictory. Isn't judging that he "continues to improve" itself a prognosis? It's a prediction (prognosis) that his health in the future will be better than it is now.
    Logged
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co

    Offline SimpleMan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4984
    • Reputation: +1924/-244
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #145 on: February 27, 2025, 08:16:14 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 25, 2025, 09:27:09 AM
    They probably know when their 75- to 100- year window of oppportunity and power began, and this might actually be what Our Lord meant about even the elect being lost if the days were not shortened.  They may not have the luxury of time to just frog-boil the rest of the Trads and that might be what saves them in the end, a shortening of the time.


    If you are referring to the prophecy of Leo XIII, that was in 1884.  That window would have ended in 1984.
    Logged

    Offline songbird

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 5020
    • Reputation: +1967/-403
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #146 on: February 27, 2025, 08:26:10 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • IMO the 100 years began when Pope Pius XI refused to consecrate Russia.  He was told by Lucia, in 1929 that the hour was now to consecrate.  In 1931, Our Lady told Lucia, Pope did not heed the request.  Therefore, he will be like King Louis XIV who refused to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. King Louis was dethroned and beheaded.( pope lost authority in his pontificate and the Church was without a head. 100 years to 2031?
    Logged

    Offline Michelle

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 414
    • Reputation: +446/-54
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #147 on: February 27, 2025, 09:03:35 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: songbird on February 27, 2025, 08:26:10 PM
    IMO the 100 years began when Pope Pius XI refused to consecrate Russia.  He was told by Lucia, in 1929 that the hour was now to consecrate.  In 1931, Our Lady told Lucia, Pope did not heed the request.  Therefore, he will be like King Louis XIV who refused to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. King Louis was dethroned and beheaded.( pope lost authority in his pontificate and the Church was without a head. 100 years to 2031?
    I agree with you.   Our Lady came in 1929 and "the time has come for the pope and bishops to consecrate Russia to my Immaculate heart." 
    It definitely seems like she was pointing at a start date.  The Church lost it's head and the freemasons took control just like France.
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46667
    • Reputation: +27540/-5114
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #148 on: February 27, 2025, 09:06:30 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: songbird on February 27, 2025, 08:26:10 PM
    IMO the 100 years began when Pope Pius XI refused to consecrate Russia.  He was told by Lucia, in 1929 that the hour was now to consecrate.  In 1931, Our Lady told Lucia, Pope did not heed the request.  Therefore, he will be like King Louis XIV who refused to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. King Louis was dethroned and beheaded.( pope lost authority in his pontificate and the Church was without a head. 100 years to 2031?

    Yes, that's been my theory for a long time.  Our Lady requested the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart on June 13, 1929.  Later Our Lord complained to Sister Lucia that "like the Kings of France" the Popes were delaying.  Our Lord had asked the Kings of France to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.  Having failed to do so, the King was deposed 100 years TO THE DAY that the requested was made.  So I suspect something very grave to take place on June 13, 2029.
    Logged

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 46667
    • Reputation: +27540/-5114
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Pope has double pneumonia
    « Reply #149 on: February 27, 2025, 09:08:36 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
    • Quote from: SimpleMan on February 27, 2025, 08:16:14 PM
    If you are referring to the prophecy of Leo XIII, that was in 1884.  That window would have ended in 1984.

    No, that's when Pope Leo XIII saw the vision, but that's not necessarily when the 75- or 100- year (depending on which version of the story is true) began.  If it began in 1958, then 75 years would be in 2033.  So the period between 2029 (when the Church/Papacy are punished somehow), and then 3.5 years later in 2033 perhaps the Triumph of the Church?  But it'll be something like that.
    Logged
    Pages: 1 ... 8 9 [10] 11 12 13
    « previous next »