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Offline songbird

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Please pray for my son.
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2012, 10:25:05 PM »
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  • Fasting, sacrifices with prayers are very beneficial.  The Cure de Ars knew this and always fasted and sacrificed for his people and they returned to the confessional.  Our priest spoke of a couple he knew.  One was an alcoholic and the wife decided to give up sweets.  For 2 years, never a sweet and her husband got deathly sick after taking a little alcohol and he never touched it again.  Pray for those in purgatory, to pray for your intentions besides the saints.  

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    « Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 09:06:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
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    The only weapon that a family has to correct an adult child is to make it clear that they are loved, but that they are welcome only when their behavior has been corrected.


    Have you ever seen that work? I've seen it attempted a few times (twice in Trad families) in similar situations involving a daughter rather than a son, but never successfully. It probably depends quite a bit on his personality type.


    I have, yes, with a friend of my extended family.  Funnily enough, the boy in question came from a Protestant rather than a Catholic family.  He was raised in a very insular environment, home-schooled, decided to attend a secular four-year university, and went hog wild.  When his parents found out, his father hit the roof and told him in no uncertain terms that he hadn't raised his son to act like that and that he was welcome home when he had amended his ways.  It took about eight months, but the boy came to his senses.

    The question here is not what can be done to amend behavior in the person of interest, which only they can do, but rather what is the best course of action for those that sincerely love, and worry for, the soul of that individual.  Parents should always be unassailable a moral authority in the eyes of their children as possible.  Capitulating regarding a child's bad behavior, even if its only in the exterior, does nothing but invite that child's contempt.  


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    « Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 02:17:17 PM »
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  • I want to say thanks for all the prayers, suggestions, and advice.  This is possibly anongoing situation, but I would like to share with you what we have done and the outcome.  This may help parents in a similar situation.

    Our son came home with this young girl who we immediately recognized to have a variety of issues.  I won't go into it, because it would be unfair to this young girl and a sin on my part.  But she had very many issues.

    In the course of the weekend, our son lied to us at least once either intentionally or because of something she had him do or say.  It was very alarming because our son has never lied to us before.  We took this very, very seriously.  

    Also, I had a hard life during and after I graduated high school.  I saw behaviors, attitudes, and actions of this young girl that were very familiar.  I knew what was going on and why.

    My husband is a mental health therapist.  He counsels women like this all day, every day.  They are currently incarcerated.  

    So every flag that could be flown was flying high.

    We recognized it as a terrible danger to our son and  KNEW we needed to act rather than do nothing.

    So we confronted him upon his return to school.  We sent him e-mails and called him.  We spoke to him about our concerns and observations.  We decided to get it all out in the open rather than keep our opinion to ourselves.

    Our concern prompted our son to do some investigating on his own, and while he still does not completely believe everything we mentioned, he has decided to be more cautious.  

    I do not know what the outcome will be.  However, we did tell him that this young girl would not be welcome at our home because under current circuмstances it would be scandalous to our other children.  We left it at that.

    We more importantly addressed the issue that he seems to be attracted to these type of girls and that there is something rather disordered about that.  If that is the case, we suggested he take a look at that.

    Also, he is in an honors program for economics.  We asked him what other professionals might think of his character if he showed up at a business dinner with this young woman on his side.  Crickets.

    He has not cut off communication from us, as yet.  He may.  But it was a risk we felt we needed to take.

    We continue to pray for him in this regard.  But we were not afraid to take action.  

    Some times our young people, especially if they are Novus Ordo, just don't know that they should even be concerned about things.  We felt this was his case.  

    As parents, we can only hope and pray for the best outcome.  Please continue to keep our family in your prayers.



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    « Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 03:40:11 PM »
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  •   People have different taste in love just as they have different tastes when it comes to food and all other things. Some people (male and female) are attracted to the strong and determined, while others are attracted to victims.
      Helping a victim gives you a feeling of being needed, being powerful and useful. Leaving victim makes one feel guilty specially if he/she is actually making you feel guilty on purpose.

     
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    We more importantly addressed the issue that he seems to be attracted to these type of girls and that there is something rather disordered about that.


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    Unfortunately, there were plenty of family and friends telling him that she was bad news, but none of their counsel was heeded. He was convinced that she just had a difficult life and lots of unfortunate situations, but was very well-meaning and good-hearted.

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    « Reply #19 on: October 18, 2012, 06:36:10 PM »
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  • I'll pray a terçet for your son to-night.


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    « Reply #20 on: October 18, 2012, 11:05:27 PM »
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    Offline Tiffany

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    « Reply #21 on: October 19, 2012, 06:02:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: CathMomof7
    I want to say thanks for all the prayers, suggestions, and advice.  This is possibly anongoing situation, but I would like to share with you what we have done and the outcome.  This may help parents in a similar situation.

    Our son came home with this young girl who we immediately recognized to have a variety of issues.  I won't go into it, because it would be unfair to this young girl and a sin on my part.  But she had very many issues.

    In the course of the weekend, our son lied to us at least once either intentionally or because of something she had him do or say.  It was very alarming because our son has never lied to us before.  We took this very, very seriously.  

    Also, I had a hard life during and after I graduated high school.  I saw behaviors, attitudes, and actions of this young girl that were very familiar.  I knew what was going on and why.

    My husband is a mental health therapist.  He counsels women like this all day, every day.  They are currently incarcerated.  

    So every flag that could be flown was flying high.

    We recognized it as a terrible danger to our son and  KNEW we needed to act rather than do nothing.

    So we confronted him upon his return to school.  We sent him e-mails and called him.  We spoke to him about our concerns and observations.  We decided to get it all out in the open rather than keep our opinion to ourselves.

    Our concern prompted our son to do some investigating on his own, and while he still does not completely believe everything we mentioned, he has decided to be more cautious.  

    I do not know what the outcome will be.  However, we did tell him that this young girl would not be welcome at our home because under current circuмstances it would be scandalous to our other children.  We left it at that.

    We more importantly addressed the issue that he seems to be attracted to these type of girls and that there is something rather disordered about that.  If that is the case, we suggested he take a look at that.

    Also, he is in an honors program for economics.  We asked him what other professionals might think of his character if he showed up at a business dinner with this young woman on his side.  Crickets.

    He has not cut off communication from us, as yet.  He may.  But it was a risk we felt we needed to take.

    We continue to pray for him in this regard.  But we were not afraid to take action.  

    Some times our young people, especially if they are Novus Ordo, just don't know that they should even be concerned about things.  We felt this was his case.  

    As parents, we can only hope and pray for the best outcome.  Please continue to keep our family in your prayers.




    Just a heads up here
    Expect him to half agree and seem to come to his senses and then a few days later be completely wrapped up in her again.
    Expect everything concern you had to be shared with her, and then a rationalization given.
    He gets a feeling from this girl that mom and dad does not give him.

    What action can you take except to cut off any funding to him? He is a grown man.

    Again I recommend no matter what hurtful thing he does, to keep the communication open with him. She knows you don't want him with her, she will be trying to alienate him from you until she is done with him.

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    « Reply #22 on: October 21, 2012, 06:37:29 PM »
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