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Re: Permanent Chapel in Alberta, Canada
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2026, 06:45:35 PM »
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Thank you for providing this. The writer of the article is obviously biased which already diminishes credibility, and to my surprise accuses the aforementioned clergy ordained by +Thuc of being heretics. From their point of view that JP2 was the Pope, it would make sense to call them schismatic, but heretics? What is the heresy they are guilty of? Absolutely ridiculous. I am not going to take some random, biased journalist's word for it.

Re: Permanent Chapel in Alberta, Canada
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2026, 06:51:21 PM »
Attached is a certificate in Latin of Archbishop Thuc detailing his consecration of Fr. Carmona, with signatures from two witnesses. Below is Fr. Cekada's translation of the letter:

“We, Peter Martin Ngô-dinh-Thuc, Titular Archbishop of Bulla Regia, give notice of the following to all: on the 17th day of the month of October, in the year 1981, we conferred the episcopal rank of the Catholic Church on Father Moses Carmona Rivera, with all rights pertaining to said rank. Given on the 18th day of the month of October, in the year of Our Lord 1981. [signature] +Peter Martin Ngô-dinh-Thuc. The eyewitnesses were: Doctor Kurt Hiller and Doctor Eberhard Heller. [signature] Dr. Kurt Hiller. [signature ] Dr. E. Heller.”


Re: Permanent Chapel in Alberta, Canada
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2026, 09:53:34 PM »
^^And this is the +TDS on display

Here is the letter which the author of the The Angelus article either misread or deliberately misinterpreted

You will notice there is no declaration of the orders being null and void, no mention of a withholding of intention:



And here is Tom admitting that what was reported in The Angelus cannot be verified :laugh2:

https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/thuc-novus-ordo-pics/msg1005669/#msg1005669
Thank you for sharing.

Re: Permanent Chapel in Alberta, Canada
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2026, 12:35:17 AM »
Can you cite the Church teaching you are referring to?
Do you doubt this? I am getting the feeling that your good will is feigned

Re: Permanent Chapel in Alberta, Canada
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2026, 12:44:24 AM »
Thank you for providing this. The writer of the article is obviously biased which already diminishes credibility, and to my surprise accuses the aforementioned clergy ordained by +Thuc of being heretics. From their point of view that JP2 was the Pope, it would make sense to call them schismatic, but heretics? What is the heresy they are guilty of? Absolutely ridiculous. I am not going to take some random, biased journalist's word for it.


Anybody who attends a thuc line, or is a thuc line clergy is the one who is biased.

The Angelus is not "some random" journalist. They would not have printed this without some source to back it up.

I think you are letting your own bias shine through, while having put on a good act for a while.

Because an impartial person reading this would realize that there already was a perfectly good line namely that of Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop Castro de Mayer. The only problem for some is that they were not foaming-at-the-mouth sedevacantists. So an impartial person would not feel the need to defend Thuc line at all costs, and can suspend any attachment to it. And look at this question reasonably.


One of the reasons I know I will always win this argument in the eyes of reasonable people is that dogmatic sedes can almost never resist getting extremely emotional, insulting, over bearing and downright childish when you discuss this question in depth.


It's almost as if... Gee... They're trying to hide something...