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Title: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: DigitalLogos on July 27, 2021, 06:09:26 PM
I wanted to share this passage from Fr. Faber's The Precious Blood because it does a wonderful job illustrating the utter dependence we have on Jesus, and how all things that we do rely on Him. It goes a long way to meditate on how every created good we desire is ultimately a desire for the Good Itself: Jesus Christ.


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The most recollected saint and the most thoughtful theologian, do what they will, live in the world all day without being able to realize how much, and in what ways, they are indebted to God, receiving from Him, living upon Him, using Him, and immersed in Him, nor how indispensable He is to us. So is it in the spiritual world with Jesus. It is a wonder that He ever came among us. Yet He is simply indispensable to us. We could in no wise do without Him. We want Him at every turn, at every moment. It is the wisdom of life, as well as its joy, to be always feeling this great need of Jesus. A true Christian feels that he could no more live for an hour without Jesus, than he could live for an hour with-out air, or under the water. There is something delightful in this sense of utter dependence upon Jesus. It is our only rest, our only liberty in the world. It is the bondage of our imperfection that we cannot be directly and actually thinking of Jesus all day and night. Yet it is astonishing how near we may come to this. Our very sleep at last becomes subject to the thought of Jesus, and saturated with it. It is part of the gladness of growing older, not only that we are thereby drawing nearer to our first sight of Him, but that we feel our dependence upon Him more and more. We have learned more about Him. We have had a longer and more varied experience of Him. Our love of Him has become more of a passion, which, by a little effort, promises at some not very distant day to be dominant and supreme. The love of Jesus never can be an ungrowing love. It must grow, if it does not die out. In our physical life, as we grow older, we become more sensible to cold and wind, to changes of place and to alterations of the weather. So, as we grow older in our spiritual life, we become more sensitive to the presence of Jesus, to the necessity of Him, and to His indispensable sweetness. A constantly increasing sensible love of our dearest Lord is the safest mark of our growth in holiness, and the most tranquilizing prophecy of our final perseverance.
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: Incredulous on July 27, 2021, 06:32:57 PM


Cardinal Newman disliked him because his flamboyant Romanism was too Catholic.


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                          Father Fredrick Faber

Source: Zeal of a Convert (https://www.crisismagazine.com/2012/the-zeal-of-a-convert-father-frederick-faber)
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: DigitalLogos on July 27, 2021, 06:39:46 PM

Cardinal Newman disliked him because his flamboyant Romanism was too Catholic.
Sounds like those today who refer to some as "ultramontanes" because they're too Catholic. God bless Fr. Faber
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: Last Tradhican on July 27, 2021, 07:18:56 PM
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The most recollected saint and the most thoughtful theologian, do what they will, live in the world all day without being able to realize how much, and in what ways, they are indebted to God
I agree that very few realize it, yet it is a surprise to me that he would say that  "The most recollected saint and the most thoughtful theologian" do not realize it either.

It is the reason why everybody in the world will so quickly jump on the train with whomever is the newest savior; Trump, Limbaugh, Gates, Fauci..... They do not realize that without Our Lord Jesus Christ we can do nothing but sink deeper into the mire.
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: jersey60 on July 27, 2021, 08:23:12 PM
I agree that very few realize it, yet it is a surprise to me that he would say that  "The most recollected saint and the most thoughtful theologian" do not realize it either.

It is the reason why everybody in the world will so quickly jump on the train with whomever is the newest savior; Trump, Limbaugh, Gates, Fauci..... They do not realize that without Our Lord Jesus Christ we can do nothing but sink deeper into the mire.
I think he’s referring to the presence of original sin. Original sin to a small or large extent can cloud our utter dependence on Our LorD from time to time…until a moment in time brings it back into focus. I could be mistaken in my thinking here but it’s just my humble opinion. That said, well put LT
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: DigitalLogos on July 27, 2021, 08:35:51 PM
I agree that very few realize it, yet it is a surprise to me that he would say that  "The most recollected saint and the most thoughtful theologian" do not realize it either.

It is the reason why everybody in the world will so quickly jump on the train with whomever is the newest savior; Trump, Limbaugh, Gates, Fauci..... They do not realize that without Our Lord Jesus Christ we can do nothing but sink deeper into the mire.
I wholeheartedly agree. That quote struck me too when I first read it. Even those who are purported to have the "most" knowledge about God in this life still don't realize the fact of our dependence on Jesus. It's both astounding and entirely humbling a thought.

"for without me you can do nothing." - John 15:5
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: Seraphina on July 28, 2021, 03:50:50 AM
It is the reason why everybody in the world will so quickly jump on the train with whomever is the newest savior; Trump, Limbaugh, Gates, Fauci..... 
There’s something seriously wrong if you have Gates or Fauci for your newest savior.😵‍💫🤪
Title: Re: Our utter dependence on Jesus
Post by: JOANORCM on July 28, 2021, 11:56:31 AM
I needed to read this right now. As a shut in for whom things on the internet seem much worse...sometimes it seems the degenerated are the majority...it helps to remember that Jesus Christ is our hope and without Him we might be right in with this world which is quickly disintegrating.