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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
« Reply #135 on: April 08, 2024, 03:23:50 PM »
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  • It was fantastic! I trust no one on here, who saw it, now believes that the Moon is translucent.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #136 on: April 08, 2024, 03:25:29 PM »
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  • We noticed a red dot just left of center bottom and zoomed in on it.  It stayed exactly the same shape the entire time (we have several pictures of it).  Not sure what that was.




    We saw the red areas too! It was amazing! Great pictures!
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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #137 on: April 08, 2024, 03:28:23 PM »
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  • Anyone else get this eery feeling like we were in some weird, scary movie?  The lighting was just so odd. It was dusk, but it wasn't.  It was as if the sun was setting in the distance, and yet it didn't.

    We saw the red dot in that same spot and wondered what it was.

    Did y'all see the large outer ring form in the sky as the eclipse progressed?

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #138 on: April 08, 2024, 03:38:51 PM »
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  • Yes, we noticed that some geese started squawking very loudly right before totality.  Then when it hit totality, they went completely silent ... and crickets started chirping.

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #139 on: April 08, 2024, 03:40:14 PM »
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  • We saw the red areas too! It was amazing! Great pictures!

    Yes, not sure what that was, but we were able to zoom in on it.  I would initially have thought solar flares, but the triangular thing retained its exact shape and size for almost the entire time of totality (about 2.5 minutes here where I'm at).  I would think that it would have changed in size/shape at least slightly during that period of time.


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #140 on: April 08, 2024, 03:45:12 PM »
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  • It was fantastic! I trust no one on here, who saw it, now believes that the Moon is translucent.

    Well ... :laugh1:

    We Flat Earthers don't believe it's the moon that causes eclipses, or not in the way that it's generally explained.

    I have still been unable to come up with an explanation for why (most) eclipses move from West to East, and I have Googled around looking for a good one.  Some NASA expert said it was because the moon moves faster than the earth rotates.  But that's demonstrably false, in the sense that absolute speed isn't what counts but the degree of arc covered.  While the moon supposedly moves at an absolute speed of 2-3 times the speed of the earth's rotation, the earth is moving a little over 30 times faster in terms of the 360 degree arc it covers.  In other words, the earth rotates 360 degrees 30 times before the moon completes a revolution.  Otherwise, the moon would rise in the West, given its alleged counter-clockwise rotation (when viewed from above the north pole on a heliocentric globe model).

    And the shadow of the moon is far too small given the dimensions and distances involved.  NASA explains this with a diagram that shows the sun being like 5x larger than the moon and then showing how the edges of the sun cast the shadow fromt he size.  But that's ridiculous, since at the distances involved, the sun and moon are roughtly the same size by the time they're seen from earth and it's well know that the sun's rays are effectively parallel (with a tiny fraction of a percent change in angle from end to end).  In fact, the diagram and NASA explanation would invalidate the famous Eratosthenes experiment, since that too is based on the assumption that the sun is far enough away so that the light rays are roughly parallel by the time they get to earth.

    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #141 on: April 08, 2024, 04:05:07 PM »
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  • Well ... :laugh1:

    We Flat Earthers don't believe it's the moon that causes eclipses, or not in the way that it's generally explained.



    Ok, but what other solid object of that magnitude could possibly, totally, block out the Sun?
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    Offline Marulus Fidelis

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #142 on: April 08, 2024, 04:13:20 PM »
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  • It was fantastic! I trust no one on here, who saw it, now believes that the Moon is translucent.
    Not so fast. It could be that the Moon is not causing the eclipse or something else is afoot, such as the moonlight and sunlight somehow cancel each other out, akin to polarisation.

    I'm not committed to the Moon being translucent either way, but it could even be transparent sometimes but not always.

    Anyway, at the very least we're in the same boat with the globers who can't explain selenelions.


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #143 on: April 08, 2024, 04:20:50 PM »
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  • Not so fast. It could be that the Moon is not causing the eclipse or something else is afoot, such as the moonlight and sunlight somehow cancel each other out, akin to polarisation.

    I'm not committed to the Moon being translucent either way, but it could even be transparent sometimes but not always.

    Anyway, at the very least we're in the same boat with the globers who can't explain selenelions.


    I’m not sure if I should believe you or my lying eyes…..


    Seriously though, Isn’t the most Biblical, logical, simple, sensible, and time honored explanation is that the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #144 on: April 08, 2024, 05:38:27 PM »
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  • It was a great eclipse. Stellar. Ol boy was a little shy, so all most of the country got was clouds. But 10/10 eclipse, would do it again.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #145 on: April 08, 2024, 05:44:57 PM »
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  • I’m not sure if I should believe you or my lying eyes…..

    Seriously though, Isn’t the most Biblical, logical, simple, sensible, and time honored explanation is that the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon?

    You keep talking about your "lying eyes", but you're injecting more into it than what the eyes actually see.  What our eyes see are a circular-shaped darkening of the sun's surface.  You're injecting your preconceptions into HOW it's working and what's causing it, which goes way beyond the phenomena actually reported by your "eyes".  You can claim that it's the only explanation that makes sense (as you do), but that has nothing to do with just what's reported by your eyes.  You are reading all kinds of things into the raw experience on top of what's actually seen.  I actually kept looking for the moon throughout the morning to determine whether I could see it approaching the sun, but couldn't make out even the slightest hint of it.  I would expect that earth shine (which is believed to be 5x greater than moon shine) should have illuminated the moon enough to at least fairly make it out.

    As for your claim that it's Biblical, nowhere in the Bible can there be found any explanation for what happens during an eclipse.

    Various ancient people (including those who could predict eclipses) posited that there was a third dark body that causes eclipses.  Others held that the moon was actually a projection from beneath the surface of the earth caused by something they called a "dark sun" or "black sun".  Nor was this just some unsophisticated mumbo-jumbo, but they had reasons for believing these things that made sense.

    I have still yet to see a valid explanation for why the vast majority of eclipses move from West to East, when the heliocentric globe model would have them moving from East to West.  I've dun around everywhere looking for computer models or something that would illustrate the angles involved, but found nothing ... just a few NASA cartoons showing the eclipse from the perspective of earth and trying to explain it as you would to a 5-year-old.

    If you have such a model that illustrates the eclipse with a view that shows the sun, moon, and earth, I'd be happy to look at it.

    Also, as I mentioned above, the shadow of the eclipse is way to narrow, and NASA's illustration of why is 100% unsatisfactory, since the sun's rays would be nearly 100% parallel by the time they got to the moon/earth, resulting in no such angles (and the explanation would also invalidate the highly-vaunted Eratosthenes "proof" of globe).


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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #146 on: April 08, 2024, 08:02:25 PM »
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  • We noticed a red dot just left of center bottom and zoomed in on it.  It stayed exactly the same shape the entire time (we have several pictures of it).  Not sure what that was.



    Interesting when we compare this shape to the Artemis mission logo.



    Perhaps just a coincidence.

    But they did also release this movie trailer today.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #147 on: April 08, 2024, 08:30:21 PM »
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  • I flipped what I photographed during the eclipse upside down here and put it next to the Artemis "mission" logo.



    You can even see that red swirl on the left image in the image from today's eclipse.

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #148 on: April 08, 2024, 08:37:04 PM »
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  • Well ... :laugh1:

    We Flat Earthers don't believe it's the moon that causes eclipses, or not in the way that it's generally explained.




    So please put forth your best explanation, I am willing to look at it.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th
    « Reply #149 on: April 09, 2024, 01:37:44 AM »
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  • I’m not sure if I should believe you or my lying eyes…..


    Seriously though, Isn’t the most Biblical, logical, simple, sensible, and time honored explanation is that the Sun is eclipsed by the Moon?
    It could just be that the Moon isn't transparent and problem solved.