Author Topic: Our Lady and the Solar Eclipse April 8th (Read 8550 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #105 on:** April 05, 2024, 12:32:22 PM »

Quote from: SimpleMan on April 05, 2024, 10:12:25 AM

And now there's this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13276187/nyc-earthquake-new-jersey-tri-state-area-social-media.html

Probably doesn't mean anything, but still...

Yes, we felt mild tremor this morning. It rocked my truck.

Saturday, our house shook hard and saw huge flash of light in distance. Other people experienced same thing but when it was called in nothing was known or mentioned at all.

At grocery store, I spoke with lady and her daughter lives in New England and things flew off of shelves.

People from Philly felt it too.

SimpleMan · « **Reply #106 on:** April 05, 2024, 02:39:49 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 12:11:57 PM

How cheesy can you get. That bird needs a space helmet! He'd explode and/or freeze into a rock hard bird-cicle if Outer Space was a thing.

Looks like the arcs make an X roughly over Colorado Springs, Colorado, if I had to guess. Wonder if there's any significance to that?

Just want to make sure I understand, if the whole space thing is a hoax, does this mean that each and every one of the roughly 8600 Space Force members are in on this hoax? Are they taken into some sort of room, sometime after they are recruited, and told "this is all fake, but you have to play along with it"? And nobody ever breaks ranks and "tells the truth"? Or are they "breadcrumbed", in a manner of speaking, with bogus info, and then when someone decides they have "the right stuff", when their loyalty is determined to be beyond risk, then they're told the truth?

I am presently getting into the hobby of collecting old satellite equipment that others are just throwing away, in hopes of being able to get what few free-to-air satellite TV broadcasts are still being offered (I'm not about to pay for it). Am I correct in understanding that, according to the deniers, there aren't really any "satellites", something is obviously up there in the sky, but it's not a satellite, and it's not 22K miles overhead? You have to be very precise with azimuth and elevation (something I have yet to master, I got a signal meter in the mail just today), which is based upon the earth being a sphere, but the dish isn't picking up anything from near that far away?

Any information appreciated.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #107 on:** April 05, 2024, 03:18:38 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 12:11:57 PM

How cheesy can you get. That bird needs a space helmet! He'd explode and/or freeze into a rock hard bird-cicle if Outer Space was a thing.

St Giles · « **Reply #108 on:** April 05, 2024, 03:27:50 PM »

Quote from: SimpleMan on April 05, 2024, 02:39:49 PM

Looks like the arcs make an X roughly over Colorado Springs, Colorado, if I had to guess. Wonder if there's any significance to that?

Just want to make sure I understand, if the whole space thing is a hoax, does this mean that each and every one of the roughly 8600 Space Force members are in on this hoax? Are they taken into some sort of room, sometime after they are recruited, and told "this is all fake, but you have to play along with it"? And nobody ever breaks ranks and "tells the truth"? Or are they "breadcrumbed", in a manner of speaking, with bogus info, and then when someone decides they have "the right stuff", when their loyalty is determined to be beyond risk, then they're told the truth?

I am presently getting into the hobby of collecting old satellite equipment that others are just throwing away, in hopes of being able to get what few free-to-air satellite TV broadcasts are still being offered (I'm not about to pay for it). Am I correct in understanding that, according to the deniers, there aren't really any "satellites", something is obviously up there in the sky, but it's not a satellite, and it's not 22K miles overhead? You have to be very precise with azimuth and elevation (something I have yet to master, I got a signal meter in the mail just today), which is based upon the earth being a sphere, but the dish isn't picking up anything from near that far away?

Any information appreciated.

Sounds like a wasted effort to me. Antenna is much easier, and collects plenty of garbage to fill the screen with. How would you decode the satellite image without a subscription? I thought they solved the code sharing workaround long ago.

Matthew · « **Reply #109 on:** April 05, 2024, 03:28:48 PM »

Quote from: SimpleMan on April 05, 2024, 02:39:49 PM

Just want to make sure I understand, if the whole space thing is a hoax, does this mean that each and every one of the roughly 8600 Space Force members are in on this hoax?

I am presently getting into the hobby of collecting old satellite equipment that others are just throwing away, in hopes of being able to get what few free-to-air satellite TV broadcasts are still being offered (I'm not about to pay for it). Am I correct in understanding that, according to the deniers, there aren't really any "satellites", something is obviously up there in the sky, but it's not a satellite, and it's not 22K miles overhead? You have to be very precise with azimuth and elevation (something I have yet to master, I got a signal meter in the mail just today), which is based upon the earth being a sphere, but the dish isn't picking up anything from near that far away?

Any information appreciated.

Firstly, we don't have 8600 space force members going into SPACE on-the-regular, kind of like how we have a Navy that spends lots of time on the SEA. The two are not equivalent AT ALL.

What these "Space Force" members do, I don't know. But don't picture some Sci-fi movie where they each member of Space Force pilots a small spacecraft, does his "rounds" guarding Earth orbit, occasionally docks with some futuristic space base in Earth orbit or on the Moon, etc. That is PURE FICTION, not reality. It SEEMS like that should be their daily routine, based on their name, first impressions, our programming from Hollywood sci-fi movies -- but such is not the case.

A lot more men were involved in the CLEARLY FAKE Apollo missions -- all they were working on was this or that gizmo. Almost none of them were "in on it". It's called COMPARTMENTALIZATION. The astroNOTs were in on it, yes -- but how many men supposedly went into space -- even today? VERY VERY FEW. And virtually all of them were Freemasons, so...

Matthew · « **Reply #110 on:** April 05, 2024, 03:34:37 PM »

As for satellites, I haven't looked into the best arguments to debunk that yet, but there's this:

NASA is the largest buyer of Helium in the world.
We've seen plenty of "satellites" come down -- attached to balloons.
Recent current events put the spotlight on this phenomenon -- to me, I know that ALL satellites are such balloons.
No one has ever seen footage of a "satellite" flying in orbit, including NASA's fake footage. They never "bother with" putting the satellites in the CGI flybys they create of Earth orbit (from the ISS, etc.) Probably because it's too difficult. There are supposedly thousands of them at any one time, in any one sector of the Earth.
Every picture you google of "satellite" is some CGI computer generated, artists rendition of a satellite. It's one of those things where once you open your eyes, you can't un-see it.
Are you aware of how highly reliant human communications is, in 2024, on A) undersea cables, B) tower-based radio comms? Virtually all of it. Even some things they claim are from "satellite" are actually from towers, like your cell phone.

Matthew · « **Reply #111 on:** April 05, 2024, 03:40:35 PM »

Here are some memes for your information --

Ladislaus · « **Reply #112 on:** April 05, 2024, 04:08:52 PM »

Here's another question that I have not seen a satisfactory answer for vis-a-vis the globe model.

Why do most eclipse "shadows" move from West to East?

In the heliocentric globe model, if you're looking down at the north pole from above, the moon is revolving counter-clockwise around the earth. But the reason the moon rises in the East, rather than the West, is because the earth is rotating roughly (just to simplify the math) 10 times more quickly than the moon is rotating. That's in terms of the degrees of the 360-degree circuit that's covered, not in absolute speed, since the moon is moving about twice as fast in terms of absolute speed due to the size of its orbit.

By this logic, eclipses really SHOULD move from East to West.

Also ... shouldn't we have an eclipse at almost every new moon? Or at least from 1 day to the next. So if on April 8, the moon is between the sun and the earth, wouldn't it still be in roughly the same spot on April 9, having moved only about 1/30th of the way more around the earth?

I admit that I'm not very good at visualizing things in space and angles, but I've tried to come up with answers to these questions, yet can't. I saw a video from NASA where the question of eclipses moving West to East was asked, and the NASA "expert" said it was because the moon moves faster than the earth rotates. That's a completely bogus answer, because it has nothing to do with absolute speed, but with the relative angles between the sun, moon, and earth. Based on that answer, the moon should rise from the West every morning, not from the East.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #113 on:** April 05, 2024, 04:27:34 PM »

I've actually been searching for computer models (viewed from the perspective of space) that demonstrate how the eclipse will work on April 8 ... in vain.

All I can find is simulations of what it will look like from the perspective of earth and cartoons like this one ...
https://plus.nasa.gov/video/space-place-in-a-snap-what-is-a-solar-eclipse-2/

NASA tax dollars hard at work on this one. It's narrated in the tone of explaining stuff to a 3-year-old, where there's a deliberate attempt IMO to make people think that these people are such geniuses that they have to talk down to us.

WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat · « **Reply #114 on:** April 05, 2024, 06:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 03:28:48 PM

Firstly, we don't have 8600 space force members going into SPACE on-the-regular, kind of like how we have a Navy that spends lots of time on the SEA. The two are not equivalent AT ALL.

What these "Space Force" members do, I don't know. But don't picture some Sci-fi movie where they each member of Space Force pilots a small spacecraft, does his "rounds" guarding Earth orbit, occasionally docks with some futuristic space base in Earth orbit or on the Moon, etc. That is PURE FICTION, not reality. It SEEMS like that should be their daily routine, based on their name, first impressions, our programming from Hollywood sci-fi movies -- but such is not the case.

A lot more men were involved in the CLEARLY FAKE Apollo missions -- all they were working on was this or that gizmo. Almost none of them were "in on it". It's called COMPARTMENTALIZATION. The astroNOTs were in on it, yes -- but how many men supposedly went into space -- even today? VERY VERY FEW. And virtually all of them were Freemasons, so...

Most of them are in office cubicles shining their seats with their asses; and they do work like the National Geospatial Agency in St. Louis, Missouri. It's, basically, satellite reconnaissance of both the USA and world. Yeah, they're spying on every American plot of land, too. They collect and analyze the data in their atomized cubicles.

St Giles · « **Reply #115 on:** April 05, 2024, 08:18:01 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 05, 2024, 03:40:35 PM

Here are some memes for your information --

Are you infallible? Are the scientists infallible? Are the memers infallible? Surely you and Lad know some things much better than I such that you would laugh at my opinions on such things, but in this case, those memes and Lad's objections would be humorous to me they are so clearly wrong and poorly thought out, if I had such a sense of humor. Better to keep quiet than to spread error. I hate it when I find out I've taught others false information.

Here's an indulgences prayer I found in an old missal:

My God, make us to be of one mind in the truth, and if one heart in charity. (300 days)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #116 on:** April 05, 2024, 08:23:24 PM »

I worked at NASA for 4-5 years, and I can attest to the extreme compartmentalization there. We had a team of about 15-20 people dedicated full time to working on this thing. And even within just this thing, several people each only know what part of it did.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #117 on:** April 05, 2024, 08:33:39 PM »

Quote from: St Giles on April 05, 2024, 08:18:01 PM

Are you infallible? Are the scientists infallible? Are the memers infallible? Surely you and Lad know some things much better than I such that you would laugh at my opinions on such things, but in this case, those memes and Lad's objections would be humorous to me they are so clearly wrong and poorly thought out, if I had such a sense of humor. Better to keep quiet than to spread error. I hate it when I find out I've taught others false information.

Here's an indulgences prayer I found in an old missal:

My God, make us to be of one mind in the truth, and if one heart in charity. (300 days)

Who exactly claimed infallibility? You, on the other hand, claim a relative infallibility for the modern scientific establishment, by deciding that "[my] objections would be humerous ... they are so clearly wrong". You've not refuted any of the most cogent evidence in favor of Flat Earth, but just keep claiming that they're wrong. its modern science that is so wrong as to be laughable.

Even if you want to claim that all the evidence and observations made by Flat Earthers are "fake" or hoaxes, we have examples of non-FE professional photographers who set records that have been verified, photographing objects that hundreds of miles away that should be hidden by miles of curvature on a globe. They had no agenda other than to set the record for long distance photography. Glober objection is simply "refraction", which is absurd on the face of it. There are also verified records for long-distance transmission of various line-of-site-only beams that defy the globe math. There's the fact that having an atmosphere adjacent to a nearly infinite vacuum is impossible, and there's no way that the very weak force of "gravity" could offset and defy the second law of thermodynamics. We have two-way long distance laser experiments that decisively rule out the possibility of refraction. We have the fact that there's no drop in the horizon line nor any curvature seen by amateur balloons (again, not by FEs with an agenda) that are not outfitted with wide-angle lenses, something that's absolutely impossible. If you see how high those 120,000-foot-altitude balloons are and then consider that you'd have that much of a drop on the purported ball earth from one end of Kansas to the other, while there isn't an inch of curvature detected by those same ballons, there's no other conclusion to draw other than the earth is flat. This is just the evidence produced by people who aren't flat earthers. But the FEs have also contributed additional evidence, which I do not believe can all be hoaxes. Some, like Dr. John D, pre-announce his experiments and invite observers to join him as he lives-streams them ... and some of his footage is absolutely irrefutable.

SimpleMan · « **Reply #118 on:** April 05, 2024, 08:36:22 PM »

Quote from: St Giles on April 05, 2024, 03:27:50 PM

Sounds like a wasted effort to me. Antenna is much easier, and collects plenty of garbage to fill the screen with. How would you decode the satellite image without a subscription? I thought they solved the code sharing workaround long ago.

It's just a hobby, I really don't even watch that much television. I am a ham radio operator and I enjoy anything that has to do with antennas or electronics. The equipment was given to me, and my total outlay, with three satellite dishes, so far has been less than $100 (had to buy some minor ancillary equipment such as a signal meter). Just something to do out here in the sun and the fresh air, and get a little education in physics and astronomy while I'm at it.

Free-to-air satellite broadcasts don't require a subscription. It is mostly ethnic programming and the like, but there are some things of interest to me, such as Louisiana and Montana PBS, as well as a national PBS feed. Again, it's not so much about watching television, as fiddling around with equipment and seeing what I can pick up, just for the enjoyment of the hobby.

St Giles · « **Reply #119 on:** April 06, 2024, 10:43:06 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on April 05, 2024, 08:23:24 PM

I worked at NASA for 4-5 years, and I can attest to the extreme compartmentalization there. We had a team of about 15-20 people dedicated full time to working on this thing. And even within just this thing, several people each only know what part of it did.

That picture brings to mind Bishop Williamson's story of the science program on TV with the scientist in white coats, and lots of equipment with dials and flashing lights. "Today we're going to listen to Mr & Mrs Dolphin speak".

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