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Offline Alex

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Origins of the Talmud?
« on: September 30, 2009, 08:21:13 AM »
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  • The Rabbis after Christ's death created the Talmud (and little by little kept increasing the emphasis on it) inorder to turn away the Jews' focus on the OT (since the prophecies contained in the OT concerning the Savior had been fulfilled by Jesus and clearly proved that He was the Messiah.)

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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 08:29:56 AM »
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  • Quote from: Uriel
    What is the truth about how the Jews got the Talmud? If the Old Testemant is Jewess, in origins, then why do the Jews follow the Talmud and not the OT?


    They follow both, Talmud is oral tradition on paper and theological opinions......twist it ti fit whatever they want though.....for instance if OT forbids something, talmud may give you a way to do it, based on weasal words and slight of hand......sex with under-aged girls, defrauding non-Jews,etc.....
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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 08:33:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: Alex
    The Rabbis after Christ's death created the Talmud (and little by little kept increasing the emphasis on it) inorder to turn away the Jews' focus on the OT (since the prophecies contained in the OT concerning the Savior had been fulfilled by Jesus and clearly proved that He was the Messiah.)


    True, that is why Palestinian canon is corrupt, they replaced some words and menaings,etc..even cut out some things.......they tried to get Jerome to accept it, but Pope Damasus interceeded, luckily......same later when they engeneered the "reformation", why Prots accept the Palestinian canon now and the thinking (like the sithite vs angels on other thread).why Luther turned on them when he found he had been bamboozled....they started the end run around the Catholic Church instead of head-on after Jamnia council......many, if not most, heresies have their input or outright pushing......
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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 09:39:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: Alex
    The Rabbis after Christ's death created the Talmud (and little by little kept increasing the emphasis on it) inorder to turn away the Jews' focus on the OT (since the prophecies contained in the OT concerning the Savior had been fulfilled by Jesus and clearly proved that He was the Messiah.)


    Michael Hoffman says that Christ refers to the Talmud as "traditions of man" in the Gospels.



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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 10:07:21 AM »
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    Quote from: Alex
    The Rabbis after Christ's death created the Talmud (and little by little kept increasing the emphasis on it) inorder to turn away the Jews' focus on the OT (since the prophecies contained in the OT concerning the Savior had been fulfilled by Jesus and clearly proved that He was the Messiah.)


    Michael Hoffman says that Christ refers to the Talmud as "traditions of man" in the Gospels.


    True, I think the beginnings were around since at least 1 BC or so.....I think it got supercharged after Jamnia...
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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 11:21:51 AM »
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  • Quote from: Uriel
    What is the truth about how the Jews got the Talmud?


    Go buy and read Apologetics, and leave such matters until AFTER you have done so.
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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #6 on: October 19, 2009, 07:02:17 PM »
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  • Why must a Christian read apologetics and apolgize to Jews, for defending OUR Faith, Our Lord, Our Mass and our way of Life?

    Meanwhile Jews promote Supremecy and the most vile kind of hate, vitriol, and filth in their TALMUD.

    Gladius would know something about it, Im sure.


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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #7 on: October 19, 2009, 07:39:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pope Innocence 3
    Why must a Christian read apologetics and apolgize to Jews, for defending OUR Faith, Our Lord, Our Mass and our way of Life?

    Meanwhile Jews promote Supremecy and the most vile kind of hate, vitriol, and filth in their TALMUD.

    Gladius would know something about it, Im sure.



    What are you promoting here?
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


    Offline gladius_veritatis

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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 04:27:19 PM »
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    What are you promoting here?


    Clearly he was instructing the ignorant...

    ...perhaps he could hold a special tutorial for us sometime?
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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 09:33:22 AM »
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    Quote from: Pope Innocence 3
    Why must a Christian read apologetics and apolgize to Jews, for defending OUR Faith, Our Lord, Our Mass and our way of Life?

    Meanwhile Jews promote Supremecy and the most vile kind of hate, vitriol, and filth in their TALMUD.

    Gladius would know something about it, Im sure.



    What are you promoting here?


    Apologetics: About how one is sorry for something(s).

    Innocence is not in favor of 'em.

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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 10:04:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Apologetics: About how one is sorry for something(s).

    Innocence is not in favor of 'em.


    LOL! :laugh2:

    What is extra humorous is that Apologetics is an excellent book about the Faith, full of arguments one could use to prepare the minds of non-Catholics for conversion to the Faith via reason.

    What is more, the author (Monsignor Glenn) is a man who wrote an entire series of books on the various branches of Thomistic philosophy, many of which we used at MHT Seminary, where Fr C, one of Pope Nonsense's heroes, is on the staff.
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    Origins of the Talmud?
    « Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 06:37:27 AM »
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  • Who is Pope Nonsense?

     

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