Author Topic: Origins of New Testament a lie, according to article (Read 1023 times)

Matthew · « **on:** April 25, 2009, 01:23:45 PM »

Where did you get this anti-Christ nonsense from?

I wouldn't recommend that just anyone read this, as it SOUNDS very convincing to the uneducated ear. Anyone can throw names and dates around, and speak confidently about something and lead a bunch of people astray. Throughout history, there have always been heresies and men who start heresies -- and lead countless men astray. So it IS possible to be convincing, even though the heresies are objective lies. Why would today be any different?

If a heresy didn't "sound tempting" or seem to make sense, who would follow it? Do you think all the Lutherans, Calvinists, Congregationalists, etc. were 100% out of their minds? I don't think they were. I think they were ignorant about the Faith (as are the majority of people today) but I think they had more common sense than the average man (or woman) circa 2009.

A lot of the ideas are Modernism (the heresy, in case you're not familiar with the technical term) plain and simple.

A lot of his allegations don't stand up to scholarly scrutiny, or even logic or common sense.

I studied a lot of these issues in the Seminary, and trust me, there are good answers to most of his nonsense, if not all of it.

For one thing, I'd like to know which "contemporary authors" were notably silent about Christ, and that they were covering Israel at the time. We know that Josephus (the Jєωιѕн historian) mentioned Christ in his writings.

We also know the "strategy" of Christ's enemies at the time -- they would never have attempted to deny His existence -- or even the existence of His miracles (!) The best they could do was say He was possessed. They inadvertently affirm A) his existence and B) his miracles.

Matthew

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2009, 01:29:54 PM »

Remember, Pope St. Pius X had to combat Modernism, the "synthesis of all heresies" around the turn of the century. Look at the date of this publication -- 1874. This is probably a modernist work, though I don't have the leisure to look into this personally.

"It is amazing that history has not embalmed for us even one certain or definite saying or circuмstance in the life of the Saviour of mankind ... there is no statement in all history that says anyone saw Jesus or talked with him. Nothing in history is more astonishing than the silence of contemporary writers about events relayed in the four Gospels."
(The Life of Christ, Frederic W. Farrar, Cassell, London, 1874)

Just remember -- we have Cardinals and Bishops who make statements against Our Lord's Resurrection -- so this is a serious heresy! If Bishops can fall for this nonsense, we must all be on our guard against Modernism.

Pray to Our Lady, especially by means of her Rosary -- she will surely keep us all on the way of truth. We have to grow in all sorts of virtues (including humility) to keep our faith intact against the onslaught of the World, the Flesh and the Devil.

Beyond that, I would advise everyone to keep sight of the BIG PICTURE. Read some good Catholic (pre-Vatican II) works of apologetics -- learn the truths of the Faith and how to defend it against worn-out errors.

Keep in mind that when they try to rip down Christ's Church, they only do so in order that chaos and Hell can reign in its place. They offer no reasonable, convincing, or beautiful alternative. It's obvious they are merely working for their master, the Father of Lies, Satan himself. He wants souls, remember, and he's willing to work for them.

Think about it for a minute (preferably an hour or two). What becomes of all the men who leave the practice of the Catholic Faith? What religion do they practice? Are they happier? Better men?

Usually they practice no religion, because they know instinctively that Protestantism is nonsense, generic "Christian fellowships" are a joke, etc. They usually quit the Catholic Faitih because it's "too hard" for their weak will. They are wimps in the spiritual order. Any other reason they give for leaving is a lame excuse!

They usually practice no religion at all, and simply indulge in a vice or two (or twenty) that they didn't allow themselves while they were a Catholic. They usually feel VERY unfulfilled and unhappy, and have problems with angry outbursts, etc.

Wouldn't you, if your conscience bothered you all the time?

Matthew

Dylan · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2009, 01:38:06 PM »

Here a site that refute the nonsense about Mithra and other alleged "similarities" between Christ and pagan gods:

http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/copycathub.html

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2009, 01:52:43 PM »

The article makes a very valid point --

It is silly to presume that "If Christianity is true, it must be absolutely unique."

For example, men know by instinct that we need a mediator (or mediators) between God and man.

Then you also need to keep in mind the "primitive revelation" given to Adam, whereby God promised a Redeemer, etc. This knowledge was passed down through the centuries and was corrupted badly by most races.

Matthew

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2009, 03:09:19 PM »

The irony is -- the confusion they sow is ONLY IN ORDER TO CONTROL THEM (them = the victims of their confusion).

Once you are convinced the Catholic Church isn't true, everything falls apart. There is no replacement for the True Church, and you are really "at their mercy" then. They can play you like a fiddle.

Especially after you fall into various sins (especially impurity) to "celebrate" your "new-found freedom".

The Jєωs not only hate Christ, but they want to better control us so we can be their slaves. How nice that they can kill 2 birds with one stone!

Matthew