Author Topic: Ora pro me (Read 1930 times)

spouse of Jesus · « **on:** May 17, 2009, 10:56:39 PM »

The ugly temptations have taken a spiritual form. I was tempted griviously, but couldnot pray to Jesus or Mary as the mere thought of them gave rise to impure thoughts. As a result I succombed to sinful imaginations.

Why, Why should I differ from milions others in this point?

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:03:33 PM »

Did you want those sinful imaginations?

If images were merely presented to your imagination, but they disgusted you and you would rather they not be there, they could be placed there by the devil.

You might have experienced only a temptation, and not a sin.

The devil, being a pure spirit (as opposed to body and soul, like a human being), is master of the physical universe. He understands science, physics, and other earthly sciences implicitly.

He can only do things in the physical realm -- such as try to stimulate your emotions or passions, present things to your imagination (which is part of the physical realm -- even dogs dream, for instance)

What the devil CAN'T do is make you choose evil, or sin. He can't touch
A) your intellect, or
B) your free will.

Those are the faculties of your soul.

Matthew

DeMaistre · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:07:04 PM »

Every soul is imparted during birth with a national soul, as Joseph de Maistre put it. This national soul will provide that particular person with strengths and weaknesses in terms of his getting to Heaven. You're life experiences also have a part. Is there anything, pardon me, in your past that would lead you to have impure thoughts about Jesus and Mary?

DeMaistre · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:10:21 PM »

Quote from: ChantCd

Did you want those sinful imaginations?

If images were merely presented to your imagination, but they disgusted you and you would rather they not be there, they could be placed there by the devil.

You might have experienced only a temptation, and not a sin.

The devil, being a pure spirit (as opposed to body and soul, like a human being), is master of the physical universe. He understands science, physics, and other earthly sciences implicitly.

He can only do things in the physical realm -- such as try to stimulate your emotions or passions, present things to your imagination (which is part of the physical realm -- even dogs dream, for instance)

What the devil CAN'T do is make you choose evil, or sin. He can't touch
A) your intellect, or
B) your free will.

Those are the faculties of your soul.

Matthew

True. At times thoughts so disgustingly vile pop into my mind, and I am certain that it is demonic in its origin.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:15:21 PM »

In my past, unfortunately yes. I used to feel warmth in my chest when thinking about Jesus and Mary, then I felt lethargic and would lose my appetite for some time. A Protestant man who was the favorite of both the angelican bishop and our catholic Mnsgnor, told me that it was fires of Holy Ghost, he encoureged me, and told me that I was a saint.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:22:44 PM »

Is there a relationship between this and your other tread?

Wanting to know every iota of all things Catholic is mostly just curiousity. Studying things like Scripture and other tried and true spiritual works should keep one plenty busy so as to avoid that which might not be 100% Catholic.

DeMaistre · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:23:10 PM »

Quote from: spouse of Jesus

In my past, unfortunately yes. I used to feel warmth in my chest when thinking about Jesus and Mary, then I felt lethargic and would lose my appetite for some time. A Protestant man who was the favorite of both the angelican bishop and our catholic Mnsgnor, told me that it was fires of Holy Ghost, he encoureged me, and told me that I was a saint.

That is most likely just an expression to encourage you.

Well then, since you say that you have been - dare I say traumatized- in your past, I would say that you need to come to terms with that. You must get baptized, then go to Confession whenever possible. Remember, that outside the church, you are still an infidel.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:25:15 PM »

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Joseph de Maistre

Who is this? I've not heard of him.

roscoe · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:39:03 PM »

He was a French Catholic at the time of the Revolution who joined the freemasons( as did more than a few). He was later set straight by the Jesuits and wrote his famous The Pope-- of which several copies are avail at addall.

DeMaistre · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2009, 12:30:54 AM »

Quote from: MaterDominici

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Joseph de Maistre

Who is this? I've not heard of him.

A brilliant philosopher. I recommend all his works:
http://maistre.ath.cx:8000/

Dawn · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:40:04 AM »

Spouse we are praying for you.

petrus · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2009, 10:37:10 AM »

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #12 on:** August 12, 2009, 11:29:09 AM »

Shameful update :cry: :
This week was a real hell for me. I started to pull out my hair and now I look bad because of hairless spots in my head. I was at the brink of breaking my vows. I was so silly and babyish. :really-mad2: I even consented to some blasphemous thoughts. All of this was because those temptations really made me angry and streesful. I was so hungry inside that I was willing to fill myself with hell fire rather than endure a vaccuм inside me. Jesus was not there to satisfy the yearning of my soul.

ChantCd said:

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Did you want those sinful imaginations?

I don't want them. I HATE them. But we are obliged to avoid anything that makes us temptetd. They are not just thoughts they are impure feelings (feeling like those who are watching **** ) So I think I must avoid thinking about Christ.

radtrad · « **Reply #13 on:** August 12, 2009, 04:10:00 PM »

Consult your confessor or another priest you trust.

Robert

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2009, 02:15:58 PM »

Something surprising happened. I decided to give a thought to the possibility of being called to matrimony. I was thinking about it, when I realized that my weird temptations were gone, and gave their way to normal feelings. It may be a sign but one can interprete it in two different ways:

1- God is telling me that consecrated life is not for me.
2- satan is trying to keep me from living a celibate vocation by tempting me in this horrible way whenever I consider celibacy.

And yes Materdominici, my two posts were related. But I was ashamed to admit it. Sorry.