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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2021, 10:52:03 AM »
Quote from: Marion on August 29, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
I am baptised (shortly before NO + conditional), and we got perfect contrition and spiritual communion.

And yes, I prefer to follow the example of St. Hermenegild.
Obviously you are.  I should have been more clear, that I had in mind a theoretical case, where a person would not have yet been baptized, desired to be, but had no one except a heretic to baptize him.

The constant teaching of the Church, for many centuries now, if I'm not mistaken, is that anyone --- even an atheist --- can baptize in an emergency.
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Offline Jr1991

Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2021, 02:25:13 PM »
Thank you for bringing this topic up. It was one I also have thought about—a little story concerning this matter. Years ago, one of the independent priests who said mass at the current chape I attend had been ill for quite some time.

 In the last few days of his life, he was hospitalized.  A Novus Ordo priest came into his room and asked if he was a Catholic priest and wanted to receive Extreme Unction from him. He answered yes. The next day he passed away.  I have always found this story interesting. The Lord was working in ways that are not of our understanding. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2021, 02:58:07 PM »
Quote from: xavierpope on August 29, 2021, 07:07:17 AM
The fact that Satanists still steal NO holy communion, makes me think it is the body of Christ.

So yes, I would receive the Eucharist from NO priest.

:facepalm:

So you prefer to trust a handful of low-level, probably moronic, Satanists ... over theological considerations?

To be honest, you don't hear a lot about Satanists stealing hosts of any kind anymore.  That's probably because they have their own line of Holy Orders from the many Satanists that have infiltracted the hierarchy.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2021, 03:09:06 PM »
Quote from: Marion on August 29, 2021, 08:20:12 AM
I would reject even doubtlessly valid sacraments from heretics, even in danger of death.

As far as I am aware, there is no recommendation to accept such.

St. Hermenegild was in that situation and rejected.

What are you talking about?  St. Pius X approved of Catholics in schismatic/heretic territories (e.g. Orthodox areas) who had no access to the Catholic Mass to receive the Sacraments from the Orthodox.

It is the Catholic Church alone who has rights over the Sacraments, and the Church commands that the schismatics/heretics give them to Catholics ... not that they would be inclined to comply.  By receiving the Blessed Sacrament, moreover, you are preventing reception by a heretic/schismatic, who might otherwise receive.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2021, 04:10:06 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on August 29, 2021, 03:09:06 PM
What are you talking about?  St. Pius X approved of Catholics in schismatic/heretic territories (e.g. Orthodox areas) who had no access to the Catholic Mass to receive the Sacraments from the Orthodox.

It is the Catholic Church alone who has rights over the Sacraments, and the Church commands that the schismatics/heretics give them to Catholics ... not that they would be inclined to comply.  By receiving the Blessed Sacrament, moreover, you are preventing reception by a heretic/schismatic, who might otherwise receive.

You are right, I read Marion’s post incorrectly. I thought he was referring to doubtful NO sacraments.
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