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Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« on: August 29, 2021, 03:43:10 AM »
I'm curious about views on whether grace is still received in a Novus Ordo eucharist.  Would you receive a host from a Novus Ordo Mass in an emergency?

I understand the issue of irreverence and abuse of course.

If dying and a Novus Ordo priest brought it to you would you refuse?

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Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2021, 06:43:18 AM »
I would not, but I would receive absolution from a NO priest if I were in danger of death.  Receiving an NO communion is participation in the NOM.

I consider NO priests to be doubtful but one may receive doubtful Sacraments in danger of death.


Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2021, 07:07:17 AM »
The fact that Satanists still steal NO holy communion, makes me think it is the body of Christ.

So yes, I would receive the Eucharist from NO priest.

Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2021, 07:14:50 AM »
I would not, but I would receive absolution from a NO priest if I were in danger of death.  Receiving an NO communion is participation in the NOM.

I consider NO priests to be doubtful but one may receive doubtful Sacraments in danger of death.
Assuming proper form, matter, and intention, as well as a validly ordained priest, I can't see any reason the Novus Ordo communion could not be received.  Even Archbishop Lefebvre and, if I'm not mistaken, Bishop Williamson, asserted that the Novus Ordo is per se valid.  (There could be many per accidens exceptions.)

I fail to see how material cooperation in the Novus Ordo apparatus, could trump reception of the sacrament at least in danger of death.  If one were dying, and the only Eucharist available, were from Eastern Orthodox schismatics or Oriental Orthodox (two different things), would he not receive?  (OTOH, there is no question as to whether Orthodox sacraments are valid --- or is there?)

The only pitfall I can see, WRT "receiving doubtful sacraments", is that in receiving a doubtfully valid Eucharist, one is worshiping what is possibly a round cracker as Lord and God of the Universe, whereas when one receives absolution or extreme unction, there is no question of potential idolatry or artolatry.

Re: Novus Ordo Eucharist In Emergency?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2021, 08:00:49 AM »
I'm curious about views on whether grace is still received in a Novus Ordo eucharist.  Would you receive a host from a Novus Ordo Mass in an emergency?

I understand the issue of irreverence and abuse of course.

If dying and a Novus Ordo priest brought it to you would you refuse?
IMHO, at best it would be the same as making a spiritual communion. There would be graces in that. 
At worst, you would receive under doubt which I think may be sinful.