Read an Interview with Matthew, the owner of CathInfo

Author Topic: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King  (Read 565 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Geremia

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2907
  • Reputation: +802/-167
  • Gender: Male
    • St. Isidore e-book library
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote
    The Breviary Office of Christ the King

    The hymn Te saeculorum Principem of First Vespers has had the following verses omitted:

                        The wicked mob screams out.
                        "We don't want Christ as king,"
                        While we, with shouts of joy, hail
                        Thee as the world's supreme King.
                        May the rulers of the world publicly
                        honour and extol Thee;
                        May teachers and judges reverence Thee;
                        May the laws express Thine order
                        And the arts reflect Thy beauty.
                        May kings find renown in their submission
                        and dedication to Thee.
                        Bring under Thy gentle rule our
                        country and our homes.
                        Glory be to Thee, Jesus, supreme over
                        All secular authorities;
                        And glory be to the Father and
                        The loving Spirit through endless ages.

    The hymn Aeterna Imago Altissimi has been transferred from Matins to Lauds, and the following changes made. The last two lines of the second verse stated that the Father had entrusted to Christ, as His right, "absolute dominion over the peoples" (Cui iure sceptrum gentium Pater supremum credidit). This has been replaced by an admonition that we, as individuals, should willingly submit ourselves to Christ (tibi volentes subdimur qui iure cunctis imperas).

    The following verses have, not surprisingly, been omitted completely:

                        To Thee, Who by right claim rule over all men,
                        We willingly submit ourselves;
                        To be subject to Thy laws
                        Means happiness for a state and its peoples.
                        Glory be to Thee, Jesus,
                        Supreme over all secular authorities;
                        And glory be to the Father and
                        The loving Spirit through endless ages.

    A version of the Vexilla Regis has been abolished completely. Originally found in Lauds, some of its verses read:

                        Christ triumphantly unfurls His
                        Glorious banners everywhere;
                        Come nations of the world, and
                        On bended knee acclaim the King of kings.
                        How great is the happiness of a country
                        That rightly owns the rule of Christ and
                        Zealously carries out the commands God gave to men.
                        The plighted word keeps marriage unbroken,
                        The children grow up with virtue intact and
                        Homes where purity is found
                        Abound also in the other virtues of home life.
                        Beloved King, may the light from Thee
                        That we desire, shine on us in all its glory;
                        May the world receive the gift of peace,
                        Be subject to Thee and adore Thee.

    A number of readings from Quas primas itself were included in the Office, and they explained the traditional teaching on Church and State with great clarity. They have all been removed, showing how blatantly the compilers of the new Breviary went about their task of eliminating liturgical references to the Social Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The removal of these readings from Quas primas must certainly be seen as an affront to the memory and the teaching of Pope Pius XI, at whose behest the Office had been composed only forty years earlier, with the specific aim of reminding rulers that they are bound to give public honour and obedience to Our Lord. Could this great Pope possibly have imagined that within four decades he would have a successor who would totally mutilate the Office that he had approved so recently, and that this mutilation would have the objective of removing any suggestion that rulers are bound to give honour and obedience to Our Lord? Pope Paul VI stated explicitly to the rulers of the world that the Church asked no more of them than freedom to pursue its mission.

    The thoroughness with which Archbishop Bugnini's Consilium expunged every specific expression of Our Lord's Social Kingship from the liturgy can hardly be denied. Its members did not even miss a reference to Our Lord's Social Kingship in the Good Friday liturgy. The first of the Solemn Collects, the one for the Church, read:
    Quote
    Let us pray, dearly beloved, for the holy Church of God: that our God and Lord may be pleased to give it peace, keep its unity and preserve it throughout the world: subjecting to it principalities and powers, and may He grant us, while we live in peace and tranquillity, grace to glorify God the Father almighty.

    This prayer has been replaced by the following:
    Quote
    Let us pray, dear friends, for the holy Church of God throughout the World,
    that God, the almighty Father guide it, and gather it together
    so that we may worship him in peace and tranquillity.

    Lest anyone should imagine that an undue significance has been placed upon changes in the Breviary and Missal relating to the doctrine of Christ the King, a comment by Archbishop A. Bugnini, Great Architect of the Liturgical Revolution, should prove very illuminating.
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co/calibre

    Online Ladislaus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 16489
    • Reputation: +9039/-3679
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #1 on: October 27, 2018, 05:46:52 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I'm surprised that there's anything left of it at all, to be honest.


    Offline Vintagewife3

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 581
    • Reputation: +223/-105
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #2 on: October 27, 2018, 07:14:35 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • So, this is a real feast day?? I was taught it was a feast day made up by the N.O church..

    Offline Geremia

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2907
    • Reputation: +802/-167
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #3 on: October 27, 2018, 08:59:58 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • So, this is a real feast day?? I was taught it was a feast day made up by the N.O church..
    In the Novus Ordo calendar, it's the last Sunday before Advent, not the last Sunday in October.
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co/calibre

    Offline Geremia

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2907
    • Reputation: +802/-167
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #4 on: October 27, 2018, 09:05:07 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I'm surprised that there's anything left of it at all, to be honest.
    The Gospel reading is actually the same (John 18:33-37): http://www.usccb.org/bible/readings/112518.cfm
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co/calibre


    Online Ladislaus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 16489
    • Reputation: +9039/-3679
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #5 on: October 28, 2018, 12:07:41 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • So, this is a real feast day?? I was taught it was a feast day made up by the N.O church..

    Most certainly not.  It predates the Novus Ordo ... and actually, when properly understood, flies in the face of the Novus Ordite "Religious Liberty".  I'm actually surprised that the Novus Ordo didn't eliminate it altogether.

    Offline Vintagewife3

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 581
    • Reputation: +223/-105
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #6 on: October 28, 2018, 12:54:40 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Thanks for clearing that up! 

    Offline Neil Obstat

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18151
    • Reputation: +8243/-631
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #7 on: October 28, 2018, 07:28:58 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • .
    So, this is a real feast day?? I was taught it was a feast day made up by the N.O church..
    .
    In the Novus Ordo calendar, it's the last Sunday before Advent, not the last Sunday in October.
    .
    .
    Msgr. Perez several years ago, explained how this worked when they moved Christ the King.
    .
    Newchurch wanted to get rid of it all together but they knew they couldn't pull that one over, what with all the other changes going on.
    .
    They didn't want to make it the last-straw-effect to tip the dominoes, because the Revolution was hanging on a thin lifeline.
    .
    After all, they had eliminated St. Philomena and St. Christopher and Santa Barbara (since Santa Barbarans are a bunch of libtards they didn't care anyway) among others, and had deleted half the Scripture references in the Gospels and Epistles and associated propers like Collects and Introits and postCommunions with the dash of a pen (even though some may be under the impression it was an authentic act of the Church since Pope "St." John XXIII was the author) by way of eliminating Octaves and higher classes of movable Feast Days of which Christ the King is already an example.
    .
    After all, they had already gotten rid of the Oath Against Modernism and were on the verge of instigating a New Mass with a 3-year cycle under the excuse that there wasn't enough Scripture in the Mass (due to the fact that they had just removed half the Scripture, which see, but never mind that).
    .
    As it had been, the Feast of Christ the King had been deliberately placed exactly where it was by Pope Pius XI after WWI and before the Great Depression, because the Church wanted the world to recognize that the Kingship of Christ is relevant to us here and now, that is, BEFORE the end of the world. The liturgical year can be thought of as an allegory for the history of the world, after Our Lord's revelation. Advent is the Old Testament leading up to the Incarnation, then Good Friday is the central event of world history, but the time from Christmas to Good Friday changes each year to show that what we DO with our lives has an effect on world history. Then the Church is born, and the time after Pentecost alludes to the many centuries of time before the end of the world. November alludes to the last days, which we are in, and this is when Christ the King should be paramount in our lives and our rule of faith by which we live -- not forgotten until the end of November when we're all distracted with other concerns. We should have TIME to think about Christ the King ---- TIME LIKE RIGHT NOW FOR EXAMPLE!
    .
    In this part of the Church's yearly cycle (which is vaguely referred to as part of /quote/ Ordinary Time /unquote/ in Newchurch) the Church turns her attention to the Last Things (death, judgment, heaven, hell) with the month of the Holy Souls (November) and the end of the year (24th and Last Sunday After Pentecost), before the annual calendar begins anew with Advent.
    .
    Therefore, during the month of November we were given to enjoy the Feast of Christ the King to keep in mind how Christ reigns on earth in the hearts and minds of faithful Catholics, and His Kingship affects the way we live; it is relevant to us here and now. Our Lord Jesus Christ should be constantly on our minds and in our hearts that we may defend his honor every waking moment and never let a chance slip by when we can demonstrate that we really mean it with our words, actions and most private thoughts, such that we would avoid bad company and surround ourselves with other Catholics who live likewise. We don't have one mind while at Mass and then another mind while in the workplace (like is so common today among politicians and show business people, for example).
    .
    What Newchurch did by moving the date to the end of the year was two things.
    .
    1)  First, they made the implication without having to pronounce explanation, that Christ the King is irrelevant here and now and only has meaning in regards to the end of the world since his kingship (sic) is "not of this world" and is therefore of the next world only. So postpone mentioning it until the last Sunday before Advent when everyone will be busy thinking about Thanksgiving Day (America) and preparing for Christmas (since Jewish merchants are all eagerly competing with each other for the Christmas market share using the goyim gentiles as useful idiots to buy their stuff). This way, Catholics will effectively forget all about Christ the King, having just one harried few minutes at Mass one day to think about it, because they are overwhelmed by all their mundane concerns to focus on instead of Christ the King.
    .
    2)  Secondly, they created out of nothing (imitating God Almighty in His creation ex nihilo) the marvelous new opportunity to dump that pesky Matthew 24 which every year comes up again like a NIGHTMARE on the 24th and Last Sunday after Pentecost, because now it will be replaced with Christ the King! However, showing great RESTRAINT, they only dumped it in two out of three cycles, A and B. But not in C. Matthew 24 is gone from cycle A and cycle B but it shows up in C, so it's only once every 3 years that it has to be dealt with. That's less often than a smog check in California (biannually for a car over 6 years old).  But it makes a nice trade off, because once every 3 years they don't have to deal with Christ the King at all, and they can dredge up that old dusty Matthew 24 which everyone will probably start to forget about anyway. You know, like the genuflection in the Credo every Sunday, when it was abandoned with the excuse of "Let's Just Do This On Christmas Day," and then after about 5 years everyone in the pews had forgotten how to genuflect at "...and was made flesh of the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary and was made man." For today, nobody in the Newchurch ever genuflects there. In fact, Bishop of Rome Francis doesn't even genuflect at the consecration, whether for him, that's when Christ is incarnate on the altar ... or not.....  :confused:
    .
    .
    I have an example of "RESTRAINT" as mentioned above. I see in Sam Guzman's Be Not Afraid, A BOOK OF QUOTES FOR CATHOLIC MEN, where he provides his only quotation of "Blessed Pope Paul VI" -- the book was published Sept. 2018 so this "Man of Sin" had not been so-called canonized yet. Recall, if you will, the verifiable fact that as a seminarian, John Baptist Montini had been a homosexual with a catamite named Paul, after whom he would later take his name for pope. A cardinal who was in the vatican at the time of Paul VI's reign testified indubitably to Msgr. Perez in person that Paul VI was commonly referred to as Pauline in those days, and that a fairly regular supply of young males were escorted into Pauline's quarters late at night and escorted out early in the morning, before prying eyes could see, you see. Therefore, knowing what you perhaps do know, about the enormity of disordered physical inclinations with which all homosexuals have to contend on a daily basis, try pondering the RESTRAINT that they would have to practice in order to hide their perversion from the eyes of the world when all the eyes of the world are on them, as is the case with the Holy Father, let's say.
    .
    Imagine, if you will, how "chained by his own senses" Montini must have "found himself" because of his own disordered concupiscence, because of "the wound inflicted on the dignity of his nature by intemperance." Therefore, here is his advice to us for "corporal fasting" by which, he says, we can "regain strength." I am reminded of Paul VI's bosom buddy, Mahatma Ghandi, who preached that the retention of semen gives a man invigorating strength. Hmmm. I wonder who taught whom?
    .
    In his 114 page book, Guzman quotes a selection of saints, some many times, such as St. Francis of Assisi and St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Padre Pio (I'm impressed he calls him this instead of "St. Pio of Pietrelcina"). But below you can see the only quote offered from "Pauline." it's on p. 44, in chapter IV, Asceticism. The book is an interesting read for its many reliable or "real" saints' words. But it's fascinating to see what Newsaints have to say, such as "St. John XXIII" and "St. John Paul II" and "St. Josemaria Escriva."
    .
    BL. POPE PAUL VI   [a.k.a. Pauline]      

    This exercise of bodily mortification -- far removed from any form of stoicism -- does not imply a condemnation of the flesh which sons of God deign to assume. On the contrary mortification aims at the "liberation" of man, who often finds himself, because of concupiscence, almost chained by his own senses. Through "corporal fasting" man regains strength and the "wound inflicted on the dignity of our nature by intemperance is cured by the medicine of a salutary abstinence."
    .
    .
    Like the other newsaints, the book's containing their quotes adds nothing positive, especially when set side-by-side with the real Catholic saints, but the dramatic difference that distinguishes the two types is edifying in a negative way. Compare what St. Francis de Sales (Doctor of the Church, after whom Don Bosco named his congregation the Salesians) has to say on page 45:
    .
    St. Francis de Sales  
    The more one mortifies his natural inclinations, the more he renders himself capable of receiving divine inspirations and of progressing in virtue.
    .--. .-.-.- ... .-.-.- ..-. --- .-. - .... . -.- .. -. --. -.. --- -- --..-- - .... . .--. --- .-- . .-. .- -. -.. -....- -....- .--- ..- ... - -.- .. -.. -.. .. -. --. .-.-.


    Online Ladislaus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 16489
    • Reputation: +9039/-3679
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #8 on: October 28, 2018, 07:46:57 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • 1)  First, they made the implication without having to pronounce explanation, that Christ the King is irrelevant here and now and only has meaning in regards to the end of the world since his kingship (sic) is "not of this world" and is therefore of the next world only.

    Interesting take.


    Offline PAT317

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 335
    • Reputation: +397/-46
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #9 on: October 28, 2018, 08:45:47 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!2


  • Quote
    1)  First, they made the implication without having to pronounce explanation, that Christ the King is irrelevant here and now and only has meaning in regards to the end of the world since his kingship (sic) is "not of this world" and is therefore of the next world only.



    Interesting take.


    Michael Davies pointed that out years ago as well.  
    I can't find where he said it (I believe I heard him say it on audio), but here's a quote of someone saying more or less the same thing MD did:
    Quote
    ... following the Second Vatican Council, its place was changed to the last Sunday of the Church year—that is, so that one week later would fall the first Sunday of Advent. This new position emphasizes rather the eschatological dimension of Christ’s kingship: the Kingdom of Jesus Christ, though begun in time, is here present “as in a mystery” (as Lumen Gentium phrases it) and in a “crucified” way. This Kingdom will be perfected and fully manifested only at the end of time, with the Second Coming. Hence in the new calendar the feast comes at the very end of the Church’s year, ...

    Offline NaomhAdhamhnan

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 33
    • Reputation: +21/-0
    Re: Novus Ordo's eviscerated office for the feast of Christ the King
    « Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 09:03:27 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Hi all,

    I've been looking for where Pope Pius XI explicitly explains that he is putting the feast at the end of October so that it can be emphasised that His Social Reign is to come in this world before the end of the world, reflected by the end of the liturgical calendar, and is not only a spiritual kingdom.

    The encyclical Quas Primas itself merely states:

    "The last Sunday of October seemed the most convenient of all for this purpose, because it is at the end of the liturgical year, and thus the feast of the Kingship of Christ sets the crowning glory upon the mysteries of the life of Christ already commemorated during the year, and, before celebrating the triumph of all the Saints, we proclaim and extol the glory of him who triumphs in all the Saints and in all the Elect."
    "The aim of the whole theology of St. Thomas is to bring us into close living intimacy with God."
    Pope Piux XI's "Studiorem Ducem"

    "When human beings have been brutalised by impurity, they will allow themselves to be enslaved without making any attempt to react." ~ Fr. Fahey


    Offline Geremia

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2907
    • Reputation: +802/-167
    • Gender: Male
      • St. Isidore e-book library
    St. Isidore e-book library: https://isidore.co/calibre

     

    Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16