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    Novena for the Poor Souls in Purgatory




    That the whole Church Triumphant may soon celebrate their deliverance; and the choirs of angels sing
    new hymns of Joy, on their never ending happiness, we beseech Thee to hear us.

    Novena for the Relief of the Poor Souls in Purgatory
    "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy." (Matthew, 5:7.)

    The Practice of this novena is especially and earnestly recommended to those who mourn the death of their parents and friends. They should commence it on the very day of the death of the person and continue it during the nine following days. It will be a consolation for them and a relief for the dear departed one.



    Day 1 Day 4 Day 7
    Day 2 Day 5 Day 8
    Day 3 Day 6 Day 9


    FIRST DAY: EXISTENCE OF PURGATORY

    PREPARATORY PRAYER:


    Act of Faith: My God, I believe in You, because You are Truth itself; I firmly believe the truths revealed to the Church.

    Act of Hope: My God, I hope in You, because You are infinitely good.

    Act of Charity: My God, I love You with all my heart, and above all things, because You are infinitely perfect; and I love my neighbor as myself, for the love of You.

    (Indulgence of 7 years, 7 quarantines, each time. Benedict XIV, January 28, 1761. Plenary once a mouth, if said every day. Benedict XIII, January 15, 1728.)


    MEDITATION: There is a place for the purification of Souls, which, after death, are yet stained with venial sins, or have not yet entirely satisfied for their pardoned sins. The Holy Catholic Church teaches it. I believe it firmly. By the light of the flames of Purgatory, I understand better Your holiness, Your Justice, Your Mercy, O my God! "Who shall ascend into the mountain of the Lord? Or who shall stand in His Holy Place? The innocent in hands, and clean of heart." (Psalm 23 in the Vulgate or Psalm 24 in the Hebrew.) "There shall not enter into Heaven anything defiled." (Apocalypse 21.) For You are Holy! Holy! Holy! O Lord, inspire my soul with the horror of sin! Grant me the grace to atone for my faults here below! You are just, O Lord, and Your judgments are right. Who will dare to say: "Do not condemn me: tell me why You judge me so?"' (Job 10:2.) "To You only have I sinned, and have done evil before You." (Psalm 50:6 in the Vulgate or Psalm 51:4 in the Hebrew.) I have deserved eternal punishment, but Your mercy will follow me into the depth of death, and I will be spared.

    Oh, Purgatory! Where reigns Hope! There I will say with the Prophet: "When I was in distress You have enlarged me!" (Psalm 4:1.) If there were no Purgatory, where would so many lazy, negligent, immortified souls go? "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort, Who comforts us in all our tribulation." (2 Corinth 1:3- 4.)

    PRACTICE: To pray the Divine Heart of Jesus that He deign to enkindle many souls with an ardent charity for the Souls in Purgatory.

    RESOLUTION: Every day of my life, I will pray or do some good work for the "Poor Souls."

    EXAMPLE: It is related in the Acts of Saint Perpetua, martyr, that, being thrown into prison, she was favored with a vision. She saw her young brother, Dinocrates, in a dark place. He was surrounded by flames, thirsty, his face was ugly, pale, covered with an ulcer, which caused his death, when seven years old. She prayed fervently for him during seven days, and then he appeared to her in a very different condition. He was bright, clothed with a beautiful white dress, and there was no ulcer on his face. She understood that he had been delivered.


    DE PROFUNDIS. Out of the Depths.
    (Psalm 129 in the Vulgate; Psalm 130 in the Hebrew.) "Out of the Depths".

    Out of the depths, I have cried to You, O Lord: Lord hear my voice. Let Your ears be attentive, to the voice of my supplication. If You, O Lord, will mark iniquities; Lord, who shall stand it? For with You there is merciful forgiveness: and by reason of Your law, I have waited for You, O Lord.

    My soul has relied on His word: my soul has hoped in the Lord. From the morning-watch even until night, let Israel hope in the Lord. Because with the Lord there is mercy: and with Him plentiful redemption. And He shall redeem Israel, from all his iniquities.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.


    V. From the gate of hell.
    R. Deliver their souls, O Lord.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.

    V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
    R. And let my cry come unto You.

    V. The Lord be with you.
    R. And with your Spirit.

    (Indulgence of 50 days, three times a day, to all who say the De Profundis with the VERSICLE and RESPONSE. "Requiem aeternam (Eternal Rest)." Leo XIII., February 3, 1888.)

    Let us pray:

    O God, the Creator and Redeemer of all the faithful, we beseech You to grant to the souls of Your servants, men and women, the remission of their sins, so that by our prayers they may obtain pardon for which they long, O Lord, who lives and reigns, world without end. Amen.

    May they rest in peace. Amen.

    Let us pray for our departed parents:

    O God, Who has commanded us to honor our Father and Mother, have pity on them, deliver them from the pains which they have deserved, and grant that I may see them in the glory of Heaven. Through our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.


    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.

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  • Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.


    That was never prescribed as part of the rosary by The Holy Virgin. Just pray what she instructed us to pray, nothing more and nothing less.

    Adding your own supplication is the same mentality that led to changes in the Missal, the rise of Vatican II robber council, and heretic JP II adding the "Luminous Mysteries" to the rosary.

    Stay away from novelties added to prayers and Liturgy that is rooted in tradition and decreed by Heavenly authorities and the Church.

    Your prayer is great on its own, and you will receive graces for it, but don't add it to what has already been prescribed by The Mother of God.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.


    That was never prescribed as part of the rosary by The Holy Virgin. Just pray what she instructed us to pray, nothing more and nothing less.

    Adding your own supplication is the same mentality that led to changes in the Missal, the rise of Vatican II robber council, and heretic JP II adding the "Luminous Mysteries" to the rosary.

    Stay away from novelties added to prayers and Liturgy that is rooted in tradition and decreed by Heavenly authorities and the Church.

    Your prayer is great on its own, and you will receive graces for it, but don't add it to what has already been prescribed by The Mother of God.


    Actually, this is a Dominican tradition for the month of November, or at least it is in a Dominican pre-Vatican 2 prayer book.  Don't forget where the Rosary comes from.  The Dominican order is especially dedicated to the dead.  

    It is also a custom in Latin American countries to add various ejaculations after the Fatima Prayer. Such as Cor Iesu Sacratissimum, miserere nobis, etc.  In fact, if you look at the actual Dominican Rosary, you will notice that it starts as the office does, exactly.  Very different from the Rosary starting with the Creed.

    Nothing personal Ascent, I usually like all your posts, but suggesting people not pray for the Faithful Departed isn't exactly the way to go.  Just thought I would point that out to you.  Can you imagine what the Souls in purgatory would think of your comment?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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  • DOMINICAN ROSARY
    In accordance with out tradition, the Dominican Rosary begins with the Invitatory from the Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary.

    [ ✚ ] In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

    V. Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

    R. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

    V. O Lord, open my lips. (trace sign of cross on lips)

    R. And my mouth will announce your praise.

    V. ✚ Incline unto my aid, O God.

    R. O Lord, make haste to help me.

    V. Glory to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit;

    R. As it was in the beginning is now and will be forever. Amen. Alleluia. (except in Lent)

    NOTE: The Rosary begins with the first mystery and the “Leader” (if in community) announces each mystery.

    Concluding Prayers:
    Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy! Hail, our Life, our Sweetness and our Hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy towards us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!

    V. Queen of the Most Holy Rosary, pray for us.

    R. That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

    V:  May the Divine Assistance remain always with us;

    R:  And may the souls of the faithful departed through the Mercy of God, rest in peace.  Amen.

    Let us pray:
    O God, who’s only begotten Son, by His life, death and resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life, grant we beseech thee, that meditating on these mysteries of the most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ, Our Lord. Amen.

    http://laydominicans.org/prayer/prayer/dominican-rosary/
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    Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.


    That was never prescribed as part of the rosary by The Holy Virgin. Just pray what she instructed us to pray, nothing more and nothing less.

    Adding your own supplication is the same mentality that led to changes in the Missal, the rise of Vatican II robber council, and heretic JP II adding the "Luminous Mysteries" to the rosary.

    Stay away from novelties added to prayers and Liturgy that is rooted in tradition and decreed by Heavenly authorities and the Church.

    Your prayer is great on its own, and you will receive graces for it, but don't add it to what has already been prescribed by The Mother of God.



    I actually find this comment offensive in that it takes an overly rigorous view of Tradition and claims that a Dominican tradition is a novelty comparable to the scandalous Luminous mysteries.  I really think you should have done your homework before adding this comment.

    Quote from: Dominican Rosary

    In November and Rosaries for the Dead: The "Eternal Rest" prayer is often prayed in place of the Fatima Prayer during the month of November (especially after dusk on All Saints Day and on All Souls Day) and during Rosaries prayed for the dead, such as at Funeral Vigils.



    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.


    That was never prescribed as part of the rosary by The Holy Virgin. Just pray what she instructed us to pray, nothing more and nothing less.

    Adding your own supplication is the same mentality that led to changes in the Missal, the rise of Vatican II robber council, and heretic JP II adding the "Luminous Mysteries" to the rosary.

    Stay away from novelties added to prayers and Liturgy that is rooted in tradition and decreed by Heavenly authorities and the Church.

    Your prayer is great on its own, and you will receive graces for it, but don't add it to what has already been prescribed by The Mother of God.



    I actually find this comment offensive in that it takes an overly rigorous view of Tradition and claims that a Dominican tradition is a novelty comparable to the scandalous Luminous mysteries.  I really think you should have done your homework before adding this comment.

    Quote from: Dominican Rosary

    In November and Rosaries for the Dead: The "Eternal Rest" prayer is often prayed in place of the Fatima Prayer during the month of November (especially after dusk on All Saints Day and on All Souls Day) and during Rosaries prayed for the dead, such as at Funeral Vigils.





    It doesn't matter from what pious groups such novelties arise, for they are still novelties. You're simply rationalizing your participation in same novelty.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.


    That was never prescribed as part of the rosary by The Holy Virgin. Just pray what she instructed us to pray, nothing more and nothing less.

    Adding your own supplication is the same mentality that led to changes in the Missal, the rise of Vatican II robber council, and heretic JP II adding the "Luminous Mysteries" to the rosary.

    Stay away from novelties added to prayers and Liturgy that is rooted in tradition and decreed by Heavenly authorities and the Church.

    Your prayer is great on its own, and you will receive graces for it, but don't add it to what has already been prescribed by The Mother of God.



    I actually find this comment offensive in that it takes an overly rigorous view of Tradition and claims that a Dominican tradition is a novelty comparable to the scandalous Luminous mysteries.  I really think you should have done your homework before adding this comment.

    Quote from: Dominican Rosary

    In November and Rosaries for the Dead: The "Eternal Rest" prayer is often prayed in place of the Fatima Prayer during the month of November (especially after dusk on All Saints Day and on All Souls Day) and during Rosaries prayed for the dead, such as at Funeral Vigils.





    It doesn't matter from what pious groups such novelties arise, for they are still novelties. You're simply rationalizing your participation in same novelty.



    In case you didn't know, the Rosary was handed to St. Dominic.  So if the Dominicans (pre-Vatican 2) accept the Requiem Aeternam as a response between mysteries then I do too.  To call this a novelty is practically heretical.  You clearly demonstrate that you have no sense of direction.  The Dominican Order is not just a "pious group" as you called them.  It is one of the greatest Orders in the Catholic Church.  You are in error on this subject.


    A NOVELTY TO PRAY FOR THE DEAD IN BETWEEN MYSTERIES! Are you even catholic?  The Orthodox don't believe in purgatory either. Maybe you have been watching too many Br. Nathaneal videos.



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    I am trying to understand this comment.  You are telling us to stay away from Liturgy that is rooted in Tradition.  That is the only sense I can make out of it, because the Requiem Aeternam is clearly a Liturgy rooted in Catholic Tradition and prescribed by popes.  You can find it in the Raccolta also.  I don't think you know what Tradition is.
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    Thanks for posting this.  After the Fatima prayer, we have included the Requiem aeternam response on the decade.  Maybe others might fine this useful.

    V. Eternal rest give unto them, O Lord.
    R. And let perpetual light shine upon them.

    V. May they rest in peace.
    R. Amen.


    That was never prescribed as part of the rosary by The Holy Virgin. Just pray what she instructed us to pray, nothing more and nothing less.

    Adding your own supplication is the same mentality that led to changes in the Missal, the rise of Vatican II robber council, and heretic JP II adding the "Luminous Mysteries" to the rosary.

    Stay away from novelties added to prayers and Liturgy that is rooted in tradition and decreed by Heavenly authorities and the Church.

    Your prayer is great on its own, and you will receive graces for it, but don't add it to what has already been prescribed by The Mother of God.



    I actually find this comment offensive in that it takes an overly rigorous view of Tradition and claims that a Dominican tradition is a novelty comparable to the scandalous Luminous mysteries.  I really think you should have done your homework before adding this comment.

    Quote from: Dominican Rosary

    In November and Rosaries for the Dead: The "Eternal Rest" prayer is often prayed in place of the Fatima Prayer during the month of November (especially after dusk on All Saints Day and on All Souls Day) and during Rosaries prayed for the dead, such as at Funeral Vigils.





    It doesn't matter from what pious groups such novelties arise, for they are still novelties. You're simply rationalizing your participation in same novelty.



    In case you didn't know, the Rosary was handed to St. Dominic.  So if the Dominicans (pre-Vatican 2) accept the Requiem Aeternam as a response between mysteries then I do too.  To call this a novelty is practically heretical.  You clearly demonstrate that you have no sense of direction.  The Dominican Order is not just a "pious group" as you called them.  It is one of the greatest Orders in the Catholic Church.  You are in error on this subject.


    Total logical fallacy. All this proves is that an ancient Order is subject to erring by embracing novelties. Again, the prayer on its own is wonderful, but it never should be added to an already PERFECT rosary that was prescribed by the Blessed Virgin Mary to St. Dominic.

    Oh, and one more thing, the Holy Rosary was prescribed to the Eastern Church before the schism long BEFORE the Holy Virgin appeared to St. Dominic and taught him the prayer.


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    This is a classic case of losing an argument, thus (underhandedly) resorting to questioning if your opponent is Catholic as a way to dismiss and belittle him. Another FAIL.
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  • Ascent,


    I do not believe that you know anything about prayer or have any prayer life.  For that reason, I will not debate with you about prayers.  Case closed.  The evidence on this thread is overwhelming enough.  You should be ashamed of your comments.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Ascent,


    I do not believe that you know anything about prayer or have any prayer life.  For that reason, I will not debate with you about prayers.  Case closed.  The evidence on this thread is overwhelming enough.  You should be ashamed of your comments.


    Successive fail.

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    This is a classic case of losing an argument, thus (underhandedly) resorting to questioning if your opponent is Catholic [and, now, accusing him of lacking in a prayer life] as a way to dismiss and belittle him. Another FAIL.



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    Ascent,


    I do not believe that you know anything about prayer or have any prayer life.  For that reason, I will not debate with you about prayers.  Case closed.  The evidence on this thread is overwhelming enough.  You should be ashamed of your comments.


    Successive fail.

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    This is a classic case of losing an argument, thus (underhandedly) resorting to questioning if your opponent is Catholic [and, now, accusing him of lacking in a prayer life] as a way to dismiss and belittle him. Another FAIL.






    It's not about losing an argument for me.  It's about supernatural virtue and the salvation of souls for the glory of God.  We are clearly going on different paths.  That is why I stopped the argument.  It is clear to any who have a frequent custom of praying and read this post.  You only fool the impious with your comments on this thread.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    Ascent,


    I do not believe that you know anything about prayer or have any prayer life.  For that reason, I will not debate with you about prayers.  Case closed.  The evidence on this thread is overwhelming enough.  You should be ashamed of your comments.


    Successive fail.

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    This is a classic case of losing an argument, thus (underhandedly) resorting to questioning if your opponent is Catholic [and, now, accusing him of lacking in a prayer life] as a way to dismiss and belittle him. Another FAIL.






    It's not about losing an argument for me.  


    Well, that's good, but your biggest problem is embracing a novelty added to an already perfect prayer that was prescribed by the Blessed Virgin Mary. You can't see how you're being relativistic here. You embrace an addition to the rosary, when, if the Holy Virgin felt it was necessary to be included in the prayer, she would have included it when giving it to St. Dominic or added it at Fatima, yet you lambast the addition of the St. Joseph prayer to the missal and other changes to missals; you oppose the "luminous mysteries"; and you reject Vatican II. How is what you're doing not the same as the latter three actions that led to, and occurred after, foundation of Newchurch?
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  • May God give you the light to see past your ignorance Ascent.  My biggest problem is that I add a requiem aeternam after each decade of the Rosary????

     What planet are your from? Planet hell?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

     

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