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Offline xavierpope

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No end times guidence
« on: September 16, 2021, 08:18:50 AM »
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  • Hi all,

    I feel pretty let down by the Catholic church in terms of their guidence for end times.

    It does not state when it is TOO late in end times , is it too late by a trumpet? By when we see Jesus in the sky? Scripture even talks about the sign of the son of man in the heavens , can we go to confession when we see the sign in the heavens? Or is it too late then? 

    The catechism does not cover the mark of the beast, but it seems to be important in end times scripture..is it a spiritual mark or a government mark???

    I feel let down that the church fathers have not added any of this in the catechism for guidence, what is the 666? 

    The book of the apocalypse said we get marked with a cross in end times , this is not in the catechism either ?


    I can't help thinking that our lady of knock wanted the church to look at the book of the apocalypse


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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #1 on: September 16, 2021, 08:53:56 AM »
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  • "And from the fig tree learn a parable: When the branch thereof is now tender, and the leaves come forth, you know that summer is nigh.  So you also, when you shall see all these things, know ye that it is nigh, even at the doors." - Mat. 24:32-33
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #2 on: September 16, 2021, 09:11:45 AM »
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  • Remember, when we die that is the end of the world for us. Always be ready, always be prepared.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #3 on: September 16, 2021, 09:29:24 AM »
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  • Just an FYI. Ireland is supposed to sink 7 years before the end of the world to keep the antichrist and the devil from ruling over it.
    So according to that we got some time

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #4 on: September 16, 2021, 09:40:09 AM »
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  • Hi all,

    I feel pretty let down by the Catholic church in terms of their guidence for end times.

    It does not state when it is TOO late in end times , is it too late by a trumpet? By when we see Jesus in the sky? Scripture even talks about the sign of the son of man in the heavens , can we go to confession when we see the sign in the heavens? Or is it too late then?

    The catechism does not cover the mark of the beast, but it seems to be important in end times scripture..is it a spiritual mark or a government mark???

    I feel let down that the church fathers have not added any of this in the catechism for guidence, what is the 666?

    The book of the apocalypse said we get marked with a cross in end times , this is not in the catechism either ?


    I can't help thinking that our lady of knock wanted the church to look at the book of the apocalypse

    1. Stop complaining. God is not pleased with ungrateful complainers who are given many graces but are never satisfied.

    2. Trust Jesus and Mary. If you do all that you can to keep His commandments undefiled, then you should have nothing to worry about. The most fortunate among Christians are those who follow Jesus in suffering, so if you are currently suffering, congratulations!

    3. The true and complete meaning of the Biblical prophecies has been enshrouded in mystery (Daniel 12). This will be so until the very near the end of the age. The Church Fathers did not understand, and could not have understood, the things you are talking about because they were not near the end. Don't blame them.

    4. Our Lord gave us an outline of how the end times will proceed in the Olivet Discourse. All of the prophetic books of the Bible use figurative language to describe the same set of events. Focus on patterns and not specifics. Pray to the Holy Spirit for understanding when reading and accept your confusion in humility.

    5. Our Lady's apparitions provide clues about all of the end times prophecies. Again, many of the things she speaks of need to be understood figuratively, not literally.

    6. Bottom line: the Holy Trinity will reveal what He wants when He wants. He has not revealed everything in a obvious way for all men at all times. Respect His plan and resign yourself to His divine will.


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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #5 on: September 16, 2021, 09:44:44 AM »
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  • Hi all,

    I feel pretty let down by the Catholic church in terms of their guidence for end times.

    It does not state when it is TOO late in end times , is it too late by a trumpet? By when we see Jesus in the sky? Scripture even talks about the sign of the son of man in the heavens , can we go to confession when we see the sign in the heavens? Or is it too late then?

    The catechism does not cover the mark of the beast, but it seems to be important in end times scripture..is it a spiritual mark or a government mark???

    I feel let down that the church fathers have not added any of this in the catechism for guidence, what is the 666?

    The book of the apocalypse said we get marked with a cross in end times , this is not in the catechism either ?


    I can't help thinking that our lady of knock wanted the church to look at the book of the apocalypse
    While pondering that, you stepped out of your car and got run over by a truck. END
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #6 on: September 16, 2021, 11:28:32 AM »
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    I feel pretty let down by the Catholic church in terms of their guidence for end times....I feel let down that the church fathers have not added any of this in the catechism
    ???  You seem to not understand what the book of the Apocalypse is.  It is symbolic, prophetic, historic and spiritual - all rolled into one.  It's not meant to be understood clearly nor easily.

    The catechism is a summary, concerned with doctrine and the basics of the Faith.  It is not necessary to know or understand the Apocalypse to be saved.
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    But...if you are so obsessed with it, I suggest you go read what the Church Fathers wrote about it.  They wrote VOLUMES on the topic.  Knock yourself out.

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #7 on: September 16, 2021, 11:36:37 AM »
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  • That we may experience the end of the world is a possibility. That we will experience death is a certainty. Prepare for the latter, and you will be prepared for the former.
    God cannot leave a soul to swim
    That has not first abandoned Him.


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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #8 on: September 16, 2021, 04:12:05 PM »
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  • Just an FYI. Ireland is supposed to sink 7 years before the end of the world to keep the antichrist and the devil from ruling over it.
    So according to that we got some time
    Why Ireland? 
    2 Thessalonians 2

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #9 on: September 16, 2021, 04:24:03 PM »
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  • St Patrick prayed to God for this sign, that Ireland would be warned before the coming of the anti-christ.

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #10 on: September 16, 2021, 05:26:41 PM »
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  • All the guidance you need for the End Times is the guidance that has always been there about how to live as a Catholic.  Live as a Catholic should ... that's all anyone needs.  Stop angsting about the End Times.  Any day could be our End Time.


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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #11 on: September 16, 2021, 06:22:12 PM »
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  • Xavierpope, are you ready to die NOW?
    If not, get ready.
    If yes, you don't need end times guidance.

    Get on with your life! Kiss your wife. Play with your child. 
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #12 on: September 18, 2021, 11:30:39 PM »
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  • Your OP about being “let down” is a good point.

    Many of us on this forum expect very little from the Consiliar Church, but the way newChurch folded (like a cheap suit) over the Jєω-masonic scamdemic has left us speechless.

    As Bill Gates said in 2020, the Catholic Churches would close, and they did, after receiving $3 billion in hush money.

    Here we are, facing a global French Revolution, with deadly injections and FEMA camps and we find the newChurch is on the side of the bad guys. :facepalm:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #13 on: September 18, 2021, 11:43:02 PM »
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  • The Conciliar Church let me down before I had to chance to learn the Faith.  I wasn’t converted until in my late 40s.  I had a lot of anger about it, and a wise priest made things simple.  He told me, “You need to forgive.”  He was right.  Forgive those Catholics, God knows who they are, who failed in their duty towards you by abandoning the sheep to the wolves.  They are hirelings.  Then get on with being the Catholic God wants you to be, whatever your state of life.  
    God does not call us to know the exact timeline of events of the Apocalypse, as if our salvation depended upon it.  That’s a Protestant idea.  Ask your priest for a good Catholic book on the end times. Work on attaining the holiness God to which God does call us.

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    Re: No end times guidence
    « Reply #14 on: September 19, 2021, 08:46:37 AM »
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  • End times guidance is same as guidance for those in cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs, those perfectly fine, those dying or those just born: Pray and never presume there will be a tomorrow. God WILL grant you the graces necessary if you are open to His will. Pray for trust in His providence and His justice, your cross will never be one ounce too heavy.

    You never respond to me but I will continue, out of charity for your soul and your sanity, to tell you to stop worrying about the end times or other prophesy. If you were prepared to face these you wouldn't need to post about them so much. 
    Regard all of my posts as unfounded slander, heresy, theologically specious etc
    I accept Church teaching on Implicit Baptism of Desire.
    Francis is Pope.
    NO is a good Mass.
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