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Offline St Giles

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Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #105 on: April 29, 2024, 09:54:53 PM »
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  • He sounds really close to the SSPX, or at least the NeoSSPX, but just hasn't quite got there. Understandably in my opinion. It takes time to carefully discern the truth, or you are liable to either give it all up and lose the faith or dive into some sort of extremism.

    I'm really enjoying Vol 1 The Ridgefield Letters from the Bp. Williamson Letters from the Rector series. Lots of good bits of History in the somewhat early years of the SSPX, including Rome's thoughts and arguments against the SSPX at the time, and why the SSPX does what it does.
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    Offline Nadir

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #106 on: April 29, 2024, 11:21:58 PM »
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  • Striving Catholic, twice now you have intimated that we have slandered the pope. Nobody here has done any more than stated his public words and actions. Can you show any evidence that anyone one here has done any other but offer the information you have asked for and commented on your own poor knowledge of the Faith founded on the apostles, as opposed to Vatican II. 

    You have much to learn, being a neophyte of less than 3 weeks!

    Are you praying the Rosary? Does your lady friend pray it? Do you pray together?

    Know that God has only the best for you and for her, if only you will do His Will.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


    Offline StrivingCatholic

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #107 on: Yesterday at 01:29:28 AM »
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  • Striving Catholic, twice now you have intimated that we have slandered the pope. Nobody here has done any more than stated his public words and actions. Can you show any evidence that anyone one here has done any other but offer the information you have asked for and commented on your own poor knowledge of the Faith founded on the apostles, as opposed to Vatican II.

    You have much to learn, being a neophyte of less than 3 weeks!

    Are you praying the Rosary? Does your lady friend pray it? Do you pray together?

    Know that God has only the best for you and for her, if only you will do His Will.
    You are absolutely right. I just looked back at the old posts and found no one actually slandering the pope, just coming dangerously close to questioning the papacy as well as the claims of an invalid Mass, etc. That got me really troubled and upset.

    Anyways, after some reflection, I think I am just in the wrong place at the wrong time, assuming this forum is a place for the everyday catholics but it's not. I was here with the intention to seek prayers and advice, not really looking to join another cause or have another conversion.

    Thus for my rash words, I apologise to the Christian brethen here and seek everyone's forgiveness. I bid everyone farewell.

    God Bless!

    Offline St Giles

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #108 on: Yesterday at 11:00:50 AM »
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  • Feel free to pop in and ask for prayers anytime. 

    I know I get annoyed by the whole array of differing opinions here, but such is the nature of the world we live in today with lots of unanswered questions, lots of good but opposing arguments, and lots of laity who really are not qualified to judge a lot of things, but there certainly is doubt when it comes to the mainstream Catholic Church judging some matters because of its clear unusual shift away from centuries and millennia long held procedures and truths towards long condemned principles. Cardinal John O'Connor, for example had many traditional opinions with a few modern liberal ones mixed in just like a modern day Republican.
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    Offline 2Vermont

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #109 on: Yesterday at 01:31:04 PM »
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  • You are absolutely right. I just looked back at the old posts and found no one actually slandering the pope, just coming dangerously close to questioning the papacy as well as the claims of an invalid Mass, etc. That got me really troubled and upset.

    Anyways, after some reflection, I think I am just in the wrong place at the wrong time, assuming this forum is a place for the everyday catholics but it's not. I was here with the intention to seek prayers and advice, not really looking to join another cause or have another conversion.

    Thus for my rash words, I apologise to the Christian brethen here and seek everyone's forgiveness. I bid everyone farewell.

    God Bless!
    I can totally understand how this must have all hit you.  However, I don't believe your coming here was a mistake.  There was a reason for it.  As St Giles said, come back when you are ready/need help.  
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #110 on: Yesterday at 05:11:50 PM »
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  • Whether or not there are children involved doesn’t have anything to do with annulment.

    I was going to respond to the same comment when I saw this.  You absolutely can have children in an adulterous relationship, or while fornicating, or in many scenarios outside of marriage, but the generation of children does not somehow create a marriage where there isn't one.

    I think what she may have in mind is where a couple has no other legitimate reason not be considered "married" but then later come up with some nonsense about "psychological immaturity" at the time of marriage.  I know of one case where not only were both the couple Catholics, but they were dedicated/involved NO Catholics in any case, with both of them volunteering to help the church and the wife a secretary at the rectory.  They were married for 25 years and had 4-5 children, and then suddenly decided their marriage was null because of some sudden recall of memory that they were too immature at the time they married, which just so happened to coincide with the wife suddenly having coming across someone she developed a romantic interest in.  Then she suddenly remembered that she was immature at the time of their wedding (not having recalled this or done anything about it for 25 years) and somehow felt "pressured" into marrying.

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #111 on: Yesterday at 05:33:08 PM »
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  • I was going to respond to the same comment when I saw this.  You absolutely can have children in an adulterous relationship, or while fornicating, or in many scenarios outside of marriage, but the generation of children does not somehow create a marriage where there isn't one.

    I think what she may have in mind is where a couple has no other legitimate reason not be considered "married" but then later come up with some nonsense about "psychological immaturity" at the time of marriage.  I know of one case where not only were both the couple Catholics, but they were dedicated/involved NO Catholics in any case, with both of them volunteering to help the church and the wife a secretary at the rectory.  They were married for 25 years and had 4-5 children, and then suddenly decided their marriage was null because of some sudden recall of memory that they were too immature at the time they married, which just so happened to coincide with the wife suddenly having coming across someone she developed a romantic interest in.  Then she suddenly remembered that she was immature at the time of their wedding (not having recalled this or done anything about it for 25 years) and somehow felt "pressured" into marrying.
    How sad and selfish people can be.....
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"