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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #100 on: April 29, 2024, 06:31:25 AM »
I did watch those videos you sent. I have even seen worse accusations from Youtube too.

I have been in constant battles since the day my aunt planted the seed in me, constant turmoil and internal struggles with claims from the Adventists, Protestants, LDS... all of which tried to tell me that they are the one true Church. I have had my fair share of arguments and struggles in my youth, before I grew too weary of. All it does is drive me away. Even now I am sick and weary of the strife differing opinions can cause. I just CHOOSE to have faith.

You see, it's pretty simple for me.  Despite all the noise, I don't think it's complicated at all.  Of all the Christian groups, only the Catholics and Orthodox are even contenders for legitimacy.  Our Lord did not establish a Church just to go off the rails in the first couple hundred years, only to be rediscovered over 1,000 years later by the likes of Martin Luther, who clearly founded his religion due to being unable to keep his zipper up, or Henry VIII, who deemed a "Defender of the [Catholic] Faith" ... until he decided that he wanted to get rid of his wife/wives and then died from a cocktail of STDs?  These are the men who after 1,000 years of hiatus from "True Christianity" were suddenly the ones God chose to rediscover it?  It's absurd, both the fact that Our Lord would allow His Church to effectively disappear for 1,000 years and that He would use men like these to re-establish it, people who clearly threw out Catholic teaching (and even Book of the Bible) that they didn't like for personal reasons.

And it's preicely on account of unity, to PREVENT these myriad divisions, that Our Lord founded a Church on earth, where He gave them the Apostles authority to bind and to loose (what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven).  You can clearly trace the succession from the Apostles down through the Catholic Church and the Orthodox.  But the Orthodox system fails the test of unity also because there's no centralized authority that can resolve disputes, and so they split off into their regional and national churches, many different in doctrine, etc.  We see clearly in Sacred Scripture that Our Lord established Peter as the "rock upon which [He] would found [His] Church" and it's clear from the Acts of the Apostles and from the early Church Fathers, many of whom were disciples of the Apostles or disciplies of disciples of the Apostles, that when there was a dispute they looked to "Peter" and his successors as having the authority to resolve disputes.  Did Our Lord intend to found a fragmented Church, with Apostles against Apostles, and successors of Apostles vs. successors of Apostles, of a unified Church?  We have Our Lord also teaching that if one does not hear the Church, let him be treated as a heathen and a publican (a faithless sinnner).  Which Church, if there are many Churches divided?  Which one should be held to have such authority that if you don't listen to it, you're a non-Christian, since if you hear the Orthodox, you don't hear the Catholic, or if you hear one group of Orthodox you don't hear the other group?

So I find this very simple and entirely un-complicated.

As for differences of "opinion", such as points about which you might find people here arguing, despite all that, we have the same core/essential Catholics faith.  No human society is going to be in agreement on every single detail, and sometimes the Church allows a different of opinion, but if there's a danger of division or schism along the lines of faith, that's when the Church generally steps in, and the See of Peter resolves the issue definitively, so as we see statements in the early Church Fathers, "Peter has spoken; the matter is closed." Petrus dixit; res clausa est."  But sometimes the Church will allow certain LOWER-LEVEL (sub-faith) disputes to go on, which in a sense can be healthy, because it allows different theological ideas to explore the ineffable truths of God from different angles, for a deeper understanding.

Finally, we're in an extremely difficult time in history, one which is difficult for converts like yourself, and even for long-time Catholics, because beginning in about 1958, the Church was finally infiltrated by groups (Masons/Communists) that had been making an open, admitted, and concerted effort to infiltrate and destroy the Church for centuries (we have their own writings, and an ex-Communist agent who converted in the US before Vatican II admitted that she had personally placed 1,100 men as infiltrators into Catholic seminaries just by herself).  Sacred Scripture, the Church Fathers, and many Catholic visionaries clearly predicted a great apostasy or falling away as we get closer to the end of the world.  Our Lady af Fatima came to warn us what was to transpire, with a Cardinal (Ciappi) who read the Third Secret saying that it refers to an Apostasy that "begins at the top".  Padre Pio told the famous exorcist Father Amorth that the Third Secret told of a counter-Church (of Satan) set up to eclipse the True Church.  That's where we are right now, and it's difficult as a result, but keep these points in mind and faithfull pray the Holy Rosary, and you'll be OK.

Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #101 on: April 29, 2024, 08:57:35 PM »
Quote from: Marulus Fidelis 4/24/2024, 3:32:18 PM
P. S. The fact that you have only now been made aware of your marital situation and that your "priest" hasn't told you anything about the matter should be an indication of who is of the Truth.
The priest I was in contact with was the one who led the RCIA. He had to inquire about my previous marriage and if I have remarried, to make sure it does not hinder my baptism in any way, shape or form. He did the same thing for the other catechumens who were divorced.

I did mention to him my intention of remarrying in the Church in future, and he told me to see him again when we are going to do it, 'so as not to complicate things for me now'. Didn't understand it then but now I do. So i have to reject the notion that the priest is not on the side of Truth. If anything, I can see he tried not to burden me with the news out of charity, so as not to increase the load of my yoke but to focus on our baptism first and all good things will follow after.

As the laity, we cannot claim to know the hearts of the priests all the time, and assert our judgement on them to everyone. They see so many people everyday and even if they miss the mark sometimes, don't we all? If we are going to talk about sins, that's the perfect example of the sins of pride and calumny. We are all humans, including priests. All of us have our own struggles. Personally I feel there is no point carrying a banner making false and slanderous claims, each bigger than the last (when there are so many great counter arguments from so many docuмents available online which has rendered these claims 'weak' and unable to stand on its own legs), even though the intention might have come from a good place.


Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #102 on: April 29, 2024, 09:18:20 PM »
I can never understand how there can be an annulment between two Catholics if there are children with their marriage?       

What does the Bible say about divorce and remarried?   


Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #103 on: April 29, 2024, 09:43:06 PM »
I can never understand how there can be an annulment between two Catholics if there are children with their marriage?     

What does the Bible say about divorce and remarried? 
Whether or not there are children involved doesn’t have anything to do with annulment. 

An annulment is simply stating that the sacrament of matrimony was never validly confected. 

yes, the conciliar church dispenses annulments like candy, but pre-Vatican 2 there could certainly be cases where marriages were annulled, even with children involved.

an annulment is not a divorce, even if the new church might treat it this way.

Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2024, 09:47:36 PM »
Actually that statement came from the Roman Archdiocese of Singapore.

Nevertheless, I am somewhat traditional to a certain degree but I wouldn't go to that extent as to create a schism within the Church, where our own brethen either slander the Pope, or claiming the Novus Ordo is invalid and a fake mass, Vatican II is invalid, etc... as if the Church is fallen, thereby sowing seeds of confusion and erroneous views among the laity within the Church.

Having heard all that, it did SSPX no favors. To me, that's somewhere along the lines to what the Protestants did. And I do not wish to have any part of that.



To be fair, you’ve come to this particular forum asking a question. Scroll down to the bottom of the webpage and read the description of the forum:

“the de-facto headquarters of the SSPX resistance”

this forum is populated largely, if not entirely by traditional Catholics who attend SSPX/resistance/sedevacantist Masses and hold these theological positions. The answers you’re going to get for this or any other question you ask are going to be informed by this perspective. Heed the advice, or don’t heed the advice, but it is pointless and stupid to come here asking for advice and shut the advice down because it doesn’t align with your perspective. That’s bullheaded, illogical, and a waste of your own time.