Author Topic: Newly Baptised and Struggling (Read 14848 times)

Nadir · « **Reply #90 on:** April 27, 2024, 12:34:21 AM »

The issue that you need to be concerned with in your case of cohabitation is one of scandal

You two obviously don’t go round with placards which read “we are not having sex”. Your lady friend is a Catholic and now so are you. So observers will believe that you are fornicating and so living in sin. This is no small matter and even if you do not engage in the marital act until you are married, (if indeed you do marry) you are still in danger for your and her immortal souls.

Please read the reasoning behind this.

The Sin of Scandal
http://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/The%20Sin%20of%20Scandal.html

2Vermont · « **Reply #91 on:** April 27, 2024, 05:38:29 AM »

Quote from: StrivingCatholic on April 26, 2024, 10:03:08 PM

There is an easy answer to that. We share a love that just makes us want to be answerable for each other and to spend all our lives together, eg. cooking together, doing groceries & chores together, attending mass & other church community activities together, praying together, being beside each other as we lay down to sleep/pillow talk, etc. And we cannot do some of that without the Sacrament of Marriage.

I do not believe an union between two persons have to be about sex. I used to think that way in my youth but now I am actually quite surprised by the kind of nurturing love that can be shared between two persons who did not put sex as a motivation. Love can be shown by other ways that lasts longer than an orgasm.

I don't believe it has to be "about sex" either, however, isn't it something that the Church considers an essential part to a valid marriage? To be clear, I want to keep this conversation PG (please) and I do not mean to be disrespectful to you, but maybe others can chime in on this.

Having said all of that, from what I'm reading, I suspect that you are already married. The reason why I brought the attraction issue up is because, assuming you are still married and cannot re-marry, then it sounds like it would still be possible (not exactly what you both WANT, but possible) for you to have this relationship with this person as a great friend without cohabitating. The fact that there is no physical attraction is a huge plus in this regard.

St Giles · « **Reply #92 on:** April 27, 2024, 09:08:51 AM »

I think there have been some cases of Catholic couples never engaging in marital relations at least for some years. It would be interesting to know the church's teaching on this. It would seem vain to marry with no intent or attempt to have children, but I think it can be a means to help each other get to heaven in a lawful manner and without scandal. I'd still avoid sleeping in the same bed if there is no intention of producing children. I've heard a priest say that a married couple can leave each other (not divorce) and become religious as long as they agree on that matter, and have no hindering obligations such as raising children.

StrivingCatholic · « **Reply #93 on:** April 29, 2024, 02:19:51 AM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on April 27, 2024, 05:38:29 AM

I don't believe it has to be "about sex" either, however, isn't it something that the Church considers an essential part to a valid marriage? To be clear, I want to keep this conversation PG (please) and I do not mean to be disrespectful to you, but maybe others can chime in on this.

Having said all of that, from what I'm reading, I suspect that you are already married. The reason why I brought the attraction issue up is because, assuming you are still married and cannot re-marry, then it sounds like it would still be possible (not exactly what you both WANT, but possible) for you to have this relationship with this person as a great friend without cohabitating. The fact that there is no physical attraction is a huge plus in this regard.

Yeah we have made an appointment to go down to the Ecclesiastical Tribunal next week, in order to begin the annulment process. Thank you all of pointing it out that our previous marriage still poses a problem.

StrivingCatholic · « **Reply #94 on:** April 29, 2024, 02:45:58 AM »

Quote from: Nadir on April 27, 2024, 12:17:58 AM

Struggling Catholic, the Sspx has never been out of communion with the Catholic Church. Whoever tells you that is deceiving you. It is the novel creation of Vatican 2 which has broken communion with the Church established by God and established on His apostles.

Here are the details for Singapore SSPX

St. Pius X Priory
286 Upper Thomson Road
Singapore 574402.
Tel: [65] 6497 2873
www.facebook.com/sspx.sg/
Email
Contact us by webform
View Priory on map
Mass: Sunday 8:00am (Low) & 10:00am (Sung), Monday to Saturday: 7:15am, 11.30am or 7.00pm (please check).
Resident Priests:
Rev. Fr. Patrick Summers (District Superior)
Rev. Fr. Lawrence Novak
Rev. Fr. Etienne Demornex (District Bursar

It will cost you nothing to approach them and see what they have to say about your situation. You could also sit in on one of their Masses or even approach them for confession.

What have you to lose?

Actually that statement came from the Roman Archdiocese of Singapore.

Nevertheless, I am somewhat traditional to a certain degree but I wouldn't go to that extent as to create a schism within the Church, where our own brethen either slander the Pope, or claiming the Novus Ordo is invalid and a fake mass, Vatican II is invalid, etc... as if the Church is fallen, thereby sowing seeds of confusion and erroneous views among the laity within the Church.

Having heard all that, it did SSPX no favors. To me, that's somewhere along the lines to what the Protestants did. And I do not wish to have any part of that.

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