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Offline TheRealMcCoy

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Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2024, 09:27:17 AM »
Hate to be the one to break it to you, but your civil marriage was valid since you were both non-Catholics. Thus to live with this other woman, however nice she is, would be adultery.

Living in adultery prevents you from receiving the Eucharist as you will be in a perpetual state of unrepentant mortal sin.  There are those on this forum who unwittingly got into this same situation but once you know, you go.  You must separate from this new "wife" who is actually a concubine.  You may not like this truth but it has to be done.  And forget about living as "brother and sister" or the internal forum.  That's not Catholic at all.  If you stay with this woman you are condemning her to Hell for all eternity as well as yourself.  If you love her, then you will want her to get out of this sinful co-hab situation.  As a Catholic, she already knows in her heart that this is adultery.  Our Lady would never condone what you are doing.  She said many marriages are not of God.  

You won't listen to this.  I know from experience.  But you will pay a dear price...like many of us, you must remain single and celibate the rest of your life.

Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2024, 09:49:40 AM »
Dear Striving Catholic,

Thank you for sharing your story. It took a lot of courage, I'm sure. 

I was going to reply with some information relating to your original post, but I can imagine that the replies to your story have thrown you into anguish and turmoil. 

My advice to you now is to immediately seek the counsel of a traditional Roman Catholic priest. Let him examine your case, and tell you for certain if your previous marriage is valid. 

I suggest contacting Immaculate Heart Seminary in Round Top, NY. 

Send them a message via email. I find these priests very charitable. 

Just Google it, and the website will come up. 


Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2024, 10:07:44 AM »
Dear Striving Catholic,

Thank you for sharing your story. It took a lot of courage, I'm sure.

I was going to reply with some information relating to your original post, but I can imagine that the replies to your story have thrown you into anguish and turmoil.

My advice to you now is to immediately seek the counsel of a traditional Roman Catholic priest. Let him examine your case, and tell you for certain if your previous marriage is valid.

I suggest contacting Immaculate Heart Seminary in Round Top, NY.

Send them a message via email. I find these priests very charitable.

Just Google it, and the website will come up.
A priest's opinion doesn't give you certainty as you suggest, only the Church can give you certainty with a declaration of nullity, which is at present, unfortunately, unavailable. The SSPV is so indifferentist that it doesn't even require general confessions for people converting from the Novus Ordo. It's useless to gamble on the opinion of some priest and then if one doesn't like that priest's opinion he can go in search of another fallible opinion.

Catholic principles in this case are clear-cut and anyone can apply them for himself - unbaptized non-Catholics marry validly when they seek a civil marriage, that's certain, the question is only if that's what happened and StrivingCatholic knows that for himself. In any case, to go seek another marriage a declaration of nullity would be required, which he cannot get, since there is no competent authority to provide it at present.

In short, one can and should seek advice from knowledgeable priests or laymen, however, one can't go seek certainty from a priest's opinion.

P.S. The marriage is assumed valid until proven otherwise beyond any doubt, not the other way around.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2024, 10:12:58 AM »
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Hate to be the one to break it to you, but your civil marriage was valid since you were both non-Catholics. Thus to live with this other woman, however nice she is, would be adultery.
Isn't there the Pauline/Petrine privelege for marriage, where if a person converts to the Faith and his unbaptized spouse won't convert, they can remarry a Catholic and receive the full sacrament?  It's a rare case, but it may apply to this thread.

Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2024, 10:35:39 AM »
Isn't there the Pauline/Petrine privelege for marriage, where if a person converts to the Faith and his unbaptized spouse won't convert, they can remarry a Catholic and receive the full sacrament?  It's a rare case, but it may apply to this thread.
The matter is dealt with in the 1917 Code of Canon law in Chapter 10, Article 1. However, it seems evident that one cannot just dissolve his own marriage without a competent authority, which is currently unavailable, and would thus not apply to the present situation.