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Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2024, 10:15:55 PM »
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  • Congratulations on your Baptism.

    It is possible to take on too much too quickly.  If I want to train for a marathon after having been a couch potato for years, I'm not going to get up one day and run the 26 miles or even the 13.

    So just start with relatively modest goals, the minimum being, IMO, a Morning Offering followed by 5-10 minutes of mental prayer or meditation, evening examination of conscience and Act of Contrition, the 3 Haily Marys (morning and evening), and the Holy Rosary.  I strongly recommend 15 decades, the entire Rosary, each day.  I like to break it up to 5 decades 3 different times of the day.  Just stick to these practices no matter how "dry" you feel.  Dryness is actually one of the first steps toward progress in the spiritual life, and it can often develop into a "Dark Night of the Senses".  At the end of the day, love of God is in the will (informed by the intellect), not in the senses or the emotions, so God will sometimes withdraw the consolations of the senses in order to strengthen the will and the intellect, the higher faculties.  But fight through it and stick with those minimums you've set for yourself.  Once you get into a solid habit of the above, then you could gradually, little by little, introduce more, say 15 minutes of spiritual reading, 15 minutes of reading Sacred Scripture (or go back and forth), additional mental prayer, etc.

    So set a modest/minimum routine or habit of prayer, and do not deviate from it, regardless of how hard it might see or how dry you might get, realizing that the dryness does not make you farther from God but is actually working to bring you closer to Him.

    You may want to read from Fr. Garrigou Lagrange's Three Ages of the Interior Life, which discusses how one progresses to holiness, through the "dark nights".
    https://tinyurl.com/4s899vzh

    Baptism does not completely eliminate the consequnces of Original Sin, conscupiscence, a tendency toward sloth/laziness, gluttony, irascibility, etc.

    If you like Three Ages, here's a link to Volume 2.
    https://tinyurl.com/yfaneksr

    Here's a similar book by Fr. Tanquerey, The Spiritual Life, which is a bit more compact / concise / terse.  We used this text at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary as the textbook for the introductory class in "Ascetical and Mystical Theology".
    https://dn790009.ca.archive.org/0/items/MN41530ucmf_5/MN41530ucmf_5.pdf
    Thank you Ladislaus. This is both enlightening and comforting at the same time, to know that what I am going through helps me to make progress in the spiritual life. I will need to remember that.

    Currently, I am saying the Morning Offering, 3 O'clock Divine Mercy Chaplet and the Evening Offering as my starting point. The Rosary might prove too much for me at the moment and I fear I will give it up halfway again.

    Thank you for the links! I will bookmark this, so I can get back to it.


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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #16 on: April 18, 2024, 10:28:24 PM »
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  • Welcome to fight!  You are now in a war with the enemies of Our Lord.  Like others have stated, love is in your will, it is not a feeling.  Keep doing what you know is God's will for you no matter how dark and dry you feel.  Put yourself everyday into Our Lady care, trust her to lead you everyday and pray the rosary.
    "Love is in your will, it is not a feeling." 
    I like this sentence and will have to keep it in mind, because I am guilty of trying to 'feel' something which I shouldn't. Thank you, Michelle!


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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #17 on: April 18, 2024, 10:30:12 PM »
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  • PETITIONS OF ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM
    TWELVE PRAYERS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY
    • O Lord, do not deprive me of Thy heavenly blessing.
    • O Lord, deliver me from eternal torment.
    • O Lord, if I sinned in thought, word, or deed, forgive me.
    • O Lord, free me from all ignorance, the pettiness of soul, and hardness of heart.
    • O Lord, save me from all temptation.
    • O Lord, enlighten my heart darkened by evil desires.
    • O Lord, because I am a human being, I am a sinner; because Thou art the Lord God, forgive me in Thy love, for Thou knowest that my soul is weak.
    • O Lord, send Thy grace to aid me so that I may glorify Thy Holy Name.
    • O Lord Jesus Christ, inscribe me, Thy faithful servant, in the Book of Life, and give me a good end.
    • O Lord my God, although I have not done any good before Thee, nevertheless, grant me, with the help of Thy grace, to be able to begin to do so.
    • O Lord, freshen my heart with Thy grace.
    • O Lord of Heaven and earth, remember me, Thy sinful servant, impure and cold of heart, in Thy Kingdom.


    TWELVE PRAYERS AT THE END OF THE DAY
    • O Lord, accept my repentance.
    • O Lord, do not forsake me.
    • O Lord, save me from temptation.
    • O Lord, grant me pure thoughts.
    • O Lord, grant me tears of repentance, the remembrance of death, and a healthy sense of my guilt.
    • O Lord, grant me humility, charity, and obedience.
    • O Lord, grant me the confession of my sins.
    • O Lord, grant me tolerance, kindness, and gentleness.
    • O Lord, place in me the source of all blessings: the fear of Thee in my heart.
    • O Lord, grant that I may love Thee with all my heart and all my soul, and that I may always obey Thy will.
    • O Lord, defend me from certain people and also from the demons and all errors.
    • O Lord, Thou knowest that there always exists agreement between Thee and Thy Will; may such also exist between us, for Thou art blessed forever and ever. Amen.
    I have added these prayers among my list of My Prayer in my Laudate app. Thank you, RosaryTrad!

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #18 on: April 18, 2024, 10:47:49 PM »
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  • ANY struggle you have, you can be certain many other Catholics have the same struggles even if they have been in the faith for many years.

    Remember these basic ordinary daily struggles are your cross. All you have to do is carry it. Even Jesus needed help carrying his cross, so heavy was the burden of our sins. It wouldn't be quite so difficult if Catholics would help each other carry their cross, but we are too spread out and careless to do that, or we won't accept help from others. "Bear one another's burdens, everyone shall carry his own burden." "No greater love does a man have than to lay down his life for his friends." That doesn't mean we have to take a bullet for them, but give up what you want to do with your life, even if it's just a part of the day or week you would rather be doing something else for yourself, to help someone else carry their burden. You don't make a campfire with 1 piece of wood, it takes a few to share the heat between them so they burn all the hotter in this cold world.
    I appreciate this. I kept assuming that there is something wrong with me or that I did not put myself in a proper state of mind before baptism and expected something splendous to happen. You just reminded me when we as catechumens were taught during RCIA that even after baptism, we were not excused from spiritual struggles and hardships, and it only intensifies if we intend to really carry the cross. Ugh...I see the immaturity in my expectations now. :facepalm:

    Can I ask, what kind of community are you in, in order to stay close and tightly-knitted within the Catholic circle? Or what advice can you provide me if I am looking for one? I ask this because apart from the Sunday Mass, there isn't really much contact (at least from my observations based on my own experiences).

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #19 on: April 18, 2024, 10:53:45 PM »
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  • Were you baptized using the Traditional Rite of Baptism or the New Rite? Was the minister a validly-ordained priest using the Traditional Rite or someone else?

    The reason I ask is that the New Rite of Baptism removes certain exorcisms and anointings that St. Thomas Aquinas says are critical to remove the obstacles to divine grace:

    https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~ST.III.Q71.A3

    If you were not baptized using the Traditional Rite, you can have a traditional priest provide the "Supplying Ceremonies of Baptism" The process takes approximately 15 minutes.
    Let me find out from my godparent from RCIA and get back to you on this. I really have no idea :laugh1:


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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #20 on: April 18, 2024, 11:16:40 PM »
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  •  3 O'clock Divine Mercy Chaplet
    The Divine Mercy is a false devotion. Change this to the Rosary.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9wsq--mkdPdufUaUCaQPZAGyfp1OixJ

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #21 on: April 19, 2024, 12:23:25 AM »
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  • The Divine Mercy is a false devotion. Change this to the Rosary.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9wsq--mkdPdufUaUCaQPZAGyfp1OixJ
    These days, I try not to brush aside anything that the Church approves under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. It would be terrible if the Holy Spirit abandons the Church when she is making such important acts of discernment, we would be lost then. :(

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #22 on: April 19, 2024, 12:41:14 AM »
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  • Let me find out from my godparent from RCIA and get back to you on this. I really have no idea :laugh1:
    This post tells us that you were baptised in the New Order (abbrev NO here) and not according to the traditional way.

    This does not mean that your Baptism is invalid but the RCIA program is also not part of the traditional Catholic Church. It may not your fault that your expectations were not as you imagined. It may have been that the program was lacking.

    We on CathInfo follow the teachings of the Church as they were taught up to the 2nd Vatican Council, which was destructive of the traditional way.

    Very many of us here were part of the NO and grateful for God’s Mercy to deliver us from it.

    Yes, there’s a lot to learn, be patient and take it slowly but seriously.

    You cannot underestimate the power of your Mother, Mary. So you must get into the habit of saying the Rosary, even if you can only manage one decade at first. It will grow on you and be your consolation in all cirdumstances.

    Welcome to the Catholic Church!
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #23 on: April 19, 2024, 12:58:11 AM »
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  • These days, I try not to brush aside anything that the Church approves under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. It would be terrible if the Holy Spirit abandons the Church when she is making such important acts of discernment, we would be lost then. :(
    The Divine mercy was condemned by the Church. Also it contradicts Church teaches meaning it is false.

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #24 on: April 19, 2024, 04:33:24 AM »
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  • Thanks for the recommendation, AMDGJMJ! :smirk:
    You are most welcome!  :cowboy:
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

    http://whoshallfindavaliantwoman.blogspot.com/

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #25 on: April 19, 2024, 05:04:17 AM »
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  • Can I ask, what kind of community are you in, in order to stay close and tightly-knitted within the Catholic circle? Or what advice can you provide me if I am looking for one? I ask this because apart from the Sunday Mass, there isn't really much contact (at least from my observations based on my own experiences).
    My best advice, SC, is to seek out a Traditional Catholic community and attend the traditional Latin Mass and whatever other devotions and instructions you can, and strive with all your might (as only a Striving Catholic can!) to attend a five day traditional Ignatian Retreat (the Spiritual Exercises of St Ignatius). It will change your life and you will sing your praises and gratitude to God for the rest of your days, and please God for all eternity, if you are ever so blessed as to do one.


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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #26 on: April 19, 2024, 05:13:15 AM »
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  • I am newly baptised and confirmed on the same day, as of 15th April 2024 and I am already struggling with praying fervently and reading the scriptures diligently daily. I also struggle with keeping the Lord in my mind throughout the day while tending to procrastinate spending time with him in prayer. All too often, the past couple of days I find myself having doubts eg., "See? There is no special incidents after baptism and I am making my life harder now than before, and for what?"
    "When thou enterest into the service of the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation" - Eccles. 2:1
    Forewarned is forearmed!

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #27 on: April 19, 2024, 06:35:18 AM »
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  • These days, I try not to brush aside anything that the Church approves under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. It would be terrible if the Holy Spirit abandons the Church when she is making such important acts of discernment, we would be lost then. :(

    Before the Church was infiltrated and taken over by various forces beginning with John XXIII (Roncalli), Divine Mercy was discerned as condemned.  So how do you explain that the Church since Vatican II has discerned the exact opposite of what the Church discerned prior to Vatican II, not just with regard to Divine Mercy, but with much of the "teaching" of Vatican II, the New Mass, etc.?

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #28 on: April 19, 2024, 07:53:17 AM »
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  • My best advice, SC, is to seek out a Traditional Catholic community and attend the traditional Latin Mass and whatever other devotions and instructions you can, and strive with all your might (as only a Striving Catholic can!) to attend a five day traditional Ignatian Retreat (the Spiritual Exercises of St Ignatius). It will change your life and you will sing your praises and gratitude to God for the rest of your days, and please God for all eternity, if you are ever so blessed as to do one.

    About the Ignatian Retreat, if you do, please be absolutely sure that it is indeed a traditional retreat. Look up all the details about who and where, check carefully what is planned for those five days. If in doubt, just ask here.

    Otherwise, it will probably be offered by modernist Jesuits or other groups that claim to be Catholic but are even more sketchy in their beliefs and practices. A traditional retreat will provide correct and clear guidance, a non-traditional retreat will only be misleading and confusing.

    Welcome to the true Faith!
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

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    Re: Newly Baptised and Struggling
    « Reply #29 on: April 19, 2024, 01:43:46 PM »
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  • I have added these prayers among my list of My Prayer in my Laudate app. Thank you, RosaryTrad!
    You are most welcome. My priest gave me these prayers when I was first in catechism, and they continue to serve me well. These are great to pray throughout the day whenever you need them. Here's another good one to have handy:

    St. Teresa's Bookmark
    Let nothing disturb you.
    Let nothing frighten you.
    All things are passing; God never changes.
    Patience obtains all things.
    Whoever has God wants for nothing.
    God Alone suffices.
    The mercies of the Lord I will sing for ever. - Ps. 88:2a