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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Need prayers, got fired
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2023, 04:46:44 AM »
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    I could no way ever be a supervisor again. God will surely provide for you DL!

    From a book I know you like, Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence

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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #31 on: January 24, 2023, 05:07:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on January 23, 2023, 09:48:13 PM
    Well, that's the thing about it. I told my boss three weeks ago what I did and she didn't really bat an eye at it she thought the magnet (it said "Satan loves me") was stupid. I warned her it was reported to HR, but I didn't even get to tell much of my side at all. I had a perfect record, no discipline, was a good employee. It had to be a factor since they have it on record that I request religious exemptions from mandatory jabs.

    We did a very prompt, informal meeting this evening where I was asked some questions to get "my side" only as a formality before she said I was being terminated. Given her reaction, I know she was really tore up about it, so clearly this came from higher ups and HR goys to just cut me loose. It was over in two minutes and I'm packing my stuff and out the door.
    Nice mug shot, DL!! 

    You look quite a bit like what I pictured. Posting your face is a good sign that you're feeling frisky. You're on a roll!!

    The more details I know, the more I like what you did. You incorporated chain of command by telling your superior. If only more Catholics would act like Catholics at work. If they did, they would make a difference. 

    Basically they canned you to teach you a lesson. But you taught them a lesson, and may you always teach other Catholics their lessons. 

    May God bless you for actually living your faith on the weekdays. 

    Say, can your boss do anything to restore you to your position when the smoke clears?

    And by what means did the incident get to HR?

    And how long between the time you executed Catholic justice and the time they retaliated against you?

    And did the idiot owner of the magnet ever confront you?

    I hope you don't mind the questions. You seem willing to talk about it, so I feel free to ask. 


     
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #32 on: January 24, 2023, 06:51:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Simeon on January 24, 2023, 05:07:04 AM
    Nice mug shot, DL!!

    You look quite a bit like what I pictured. Posting your face is a good sign that you're feeling frisky. You're on a roll!!

    The more details I know, the more I like what you did. You incorporated chain of command by telling your superior. If only more Catholics would act like Catholics at work. If they did, they would make a difference.

    Basically they canned you to teach you a lesson. But you taught them a lesson, and may you always teach other Catholics their lessons.

    May God bless you for actually living your faith on the weekdays.

    Say, can your boss do anything to restore you to your position when the smoke clears?
    No. She has no real power in a corporate ladder. I think it came down from my VP or Director, plus if you've ever dealt with HR they wield a lot of power. I could appeal and have them reevaluate, but given my experience with that on the other side, they won't rescind it.

    And by what means did the incident get to HR?
    The blasphemer reported it either to campus police or HR. I spoke on the phone with the cops weeks ago, and they gave me a lecture, no record, ticket or time. I knew I was screwed when they said it went to HR since I was a supervisor.

    And how long between the time you executed Catholic justice and the time they retaliated against you?
    A week maybe. Jan 6 cops called me. The owner said they didn't want to press charges or anything. But it "freaked them out". I noticed that they went and removed all of their woke bumper stickers after that too lol

    And did the idiot owner of the magnet ever confront you?
    No. According to the cops they were "chill" about it. Most people are so afraid of confrontation that I didn't expect them to anyway, plus the cops probably told them to avoid me, if they knew who I was.

    I hope you don't mind the questions. You seem willing to talk about it, so I feel free to ask.


     
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #33 on: January 24, 2023, 07:26:07 AM »
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    • It's possible that someone in the chain is actually a Satanist, or they had some prior beef with you.  I've found that with most companies they have some HR policies that they rarely enforce, but then could pull out if they want to get you for some other reason.  So, for instance, they'll have a policy that personal use of work computers is not permitted.  Everybody uses the work computer for SOME personal thing here or there.  But if they decided they wanted to get rid of someone, they could pull that out of their back pocket and suddenly enforce it.

    My question is -- how did you get caught?  I tend to do stuff like that on the sly, when nobody's looking.  I'll take condoms in stores and throw them behind the shelf, or smutty magazines, etc.  They end up where no one will even bother to look for years.  But I always make sure that "the coast is clear". :laugh1:
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #34 on: January 24, 2023, 07:27:16 AM »
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #35 on: January 24, 2023, 07:32:22 AM »
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    • Now go to unemployment.  Then call St Thomas Society.  

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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #36 on: January 24, 2023, 07:37:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on January 23, 2023, 06:55:08 PM
    Yeah, it's for the better. I got canned because I pulled a blasphemous magnet off someone's car. It got back to HR, and since I was a supervisor they got me for harassment and theft.
    I was checking the internet for "wrongful termination" and "just cause", and unfortunately if this was truly "theft" that is one of those things that is considered just cause.  I was hoping you could fight it.  It might make sense to at least consult with a lawyer to see if it applies to your situation?

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    ETA:  I see the above link is from Canada, but I'm thinking it's probably the same in the US as well.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #37 on: January 24, 2023, 07:52:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 24, 2023, 07:26:07 AM
    It's possible that someone in the chain is actually a Satanist, or they had some prior beef with you.  I've found that with most companies they have some HR policies that they rarely enforce, but then could pull out if they want to get you for some other reason.  So, for instance, they'll have a policy that personal use of work computers is not permitted.  Everybody uses the work computer for SOME personal thing here or there.  But if they decided they wanted to get rid of someone, they could pull that out of their back pocket and suddenly enforce it.

    My question is -- how did you get caught?  I tend to do stuff like that on the sly, when nobody's looking.  I'll take condoms in stores and throw them behind the shelf, or smutty magazines, etc.  They end up where no one will even bother to look for years.  But I always make sure that "the coast is clear". :laugh1:
    Yes, I think it was because I was on file as having refused the jab multiple times via my exemptions. But also because I was management.

    I think the cops pulled the video from that day in the ramp and spoke with each person they saw entering. Unless there was a dash cam on the car. I literally just swiped it as I walked past and disposed of it elsewhere. It wasn't super obvious, I believe. I don't recall there being a camera where they were parked.

    Quote from: 2Vermont on January 24, 2023, 07:37:10 AM
    I was checking the internet for "wrongful termination" and "just cause", and unfortunately if this was truly "theft" that is one of those things that is considered just cause.  I was hoping you could fight it.  It might make sense to at least consult with a lawyer to see if it applies to your situation?

    What is "just cause" for termination? - RavenLaw

    ETA:  I see the above link is from Canada, but I'm thinking it's probably the same in the US as well.
    Yeah, that's how the cop I spoke with framed it too, as theft. Then he lectured me on the 1st amendment and that was that.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #38 on: January 24, 2023, 08:09:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on January 24, 2023, 07:52:29 AM
    Yes, I think it was because I was on file as having refused the jab multiple times via my exemptions. But also because I was management.

    I think the cops pulled the video from that day in the ramp and spoke with each person they saw entering. Unless there was a dash cam on the car. I literally just swiped it as I walked past and disposed of it elsewhere. It wasn't super obvious, I believe. I don't recall there being a camera where they were parked.
    Yeah, that's how the cop I spoke with framed it too, as theft. Then he lectured me on the 1st amendment and that was that.

    So the Satanist freak complained that someone took his bumper magnet and they went to review the camera footage?  Unbelievable.  If someone brought a complaint about that to me, I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of my time, "Maybe your thing fell off.  We've got bigger things to worry about."  I'm not about to go thour 8 hours of video footage for something that stupid.

    Maybe you could put a "racist" or "sexist" bumper sticker on your car to express YOUR first amendment, and they would undoubtedly send you packing for that.  If some Person of Color then removed your magnet, you would be the one getting in trouble.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #39 on: January 24, 2023, 08:20:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 24, 2023, 08:09:34 AM
    So the Satanist freak complained that someone took his bumper magnet and they went to review the camera footage?  Unbelievable.  If someone brought a complaint about that to me, I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of my time, "Maybe your thing fell off.  We've got bigger things to worry about."  I'm not about to go thour 8 hours of video footage for something that stupid.

    Maybe you could put a "racist" or "sexist" bumper sticker on your car to express YOUR first amendment, and they would undoubtedly send you packing for that.  If some Person of Color then removed your magnet, you would be the one getting in trouble.
    Yeah, I thought the same thing. If I had a swastika on the back of my car I know for a FACT it would be reported and I would've been fired.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #40 on: January 24, 2023, 08:32:44 AM »
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    • Would this have been a case where the end does not justify the means? (Theft) Another case where our hood intentions actually cause us to do wrong? I know that the question of whether it is ok to lie for a good cause often comes to my mind. Is it a sin or not to lie in such a way? Or is silence or deceptive speech the best way? But then such a response might reveal the truth. The consequences of the evil caused would still be on someone else's soul, and it would be God's right to revenge.

    So that, at least I, may learn something by a confirmation of my suspicion, would it have been better to just leave that horrible magnet?

    I'm still praying for you. Being out of work sucks, but at least there's a lot more time for prayer, meditation, spiritual reading, ect. Make the best of this time while you can.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #41 on: January 24, 2023, 08:35:40 AM »
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    • Well, one thing your company doesn't want is any attention or media regarding their decision that may affect their business or public persona. 
    Maybe a letter from a lawyer warning them that unless reinstated or compensated for their actions against you, they will have a lengthy PUBLIC legal process to deal with in the near future.
    This is NOT a first amendment case as it happened on private property. The company's decision was solely their own. They could have ignored it or given you a reprimand -nothing as severe as loss of employment.
    If you are up for it, ( and sometimes it's not worth it- your choice) I would pursue it in a civil court for compensation.You would have to get a good Catholic Lawyer, pro-bono.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #42 on: January 24, 2023, 08:41:08 AM »
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    • I just prayed to St. Joseph for your intention. I hope that you rebound quickly and land a better gig. DL, although I don't know you it appears from this thread that you are a man of integrity and honor. I'm sorry that you lost your job. As a husband, father, and provider that is a terrifying thing. Do you have a wife and children? I only ask because if you do, what you did took extra courage. I am the sole provider for my family of six. My wife homeschools our four young boys. I worry that if I lose my job, or my ability to work, that my wife may have to work again and my kids would have to go into the public school system around all of the filth of this modern world. So I try to lay low at work and not make waves. A few years ago a close friend of mine got fired over a somewhat similar circuŠ¼stance to yours. Afterward he said to me that he didn't regret what he had done, but that he wouldn't have done it again because he didn't change any minds or wake up any NPCs as a result of his actions, which is what he was aiming for. So he and I have a text group with other like-minded guys that support each other as we have to live inside the demon matrix to collect our shekels. 

    A final anecdote of hope. A little over a year ago I had to give up a job that I liked because of their jab mandate and refusal to grant exemption. I found another job that was willing to grant me an exemption, and was able to transition smoothly without any employment gaps, which was a blessing, but I had to take a substantial pay cut going to the other job. It was an extremely stressful time for me. Then, about six months ago I heard from a former coworker with that company that they were closing the division that I had worked in. All of my old coworker from that job were now looking for employment elsewhere. So I would have had to leave and take that pay cut eventually anyway, but at least I got to do it on my own terms. So it gave me some consolation over the distress and frustration that I had felt for my reduction of income. Stay strong brother!
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #43 on: January 24, 2023, 08:46:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on January 24, 2023, 08:35:40 AM
    Well, one thing your company doesn't want is any attention or media regarding their decision that may affect their business or public persona.
    Maybe a letter from a lawyer warning them that unless reinstated or compensated for their actions against you, they will have a lengthy PUBLIC legal process to deal with in the near future.
    This is NOT a first amendment case as it happened on private property. The company's decision was solely their own. They could have ignored it or given you a reprimand -nothing as severe as loss of employment.
    If you are up for it, ( and sometimes it's not worth it- your choice) I would pursue it in a civil court for compensation.You would have to get a good Catholic Lawyer, pro-bono.
    As I mentioned up thread....I think it's at least worth looking into especially given his employment record was spotless.
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    Re: Need prayers, got fired
    « Reply #44 on: January 24, 2023, 08:56:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 24, 2023, 08:46:15 AM
    As I mentioned up thread....I think it's at least worth looking into especially given his employment record was spotless.
    Yes, I saw. I  think civilly if there are any merits to the case, it's that the punishment is not justified in comparison to the act and there are damages to DL  here.
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