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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers => Topic started by: DigitalLogos on January 23, 2023, 05:40:01 PM
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I got fired today. Please offer your prayers for me and my family.
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Oh I'm so sorry DL. Hang in. Prayers for you and family.
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I got fired today. Please offer your prayers for me and my family.
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:pray::pray::pray: for DL and all his family.
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So sorry, but we know that God will bring good out of this if you are faithful to him.
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thy intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me.
Amen.
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Digital Logos, so sorry to hear this.
We will pray for you and your family.
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Litany Of St. Joseph
Lord, have mercy.
Christ, have mercy.
Lord, have mercy.
Christ, hear us.
Christ, graciously hear us.
God, the Father of Heaven, have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world, have mercy on us.
God the Holy Ghost, have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, One God, have mercy on us.
Holy Mary, Pray for us.*
St. Joseph, *
Renowned offspring of David, *
Light of Patriarchs, *
Spouse of the Mother of God, *
Chaste guardian of the Virgin, *
Foster father of the Son of God, *
Diligent protector of Christ, *
Head of the Holy Family, *
Joseph most just, *
Joseph most chaste, *
Joseph most prudent, *
Joseph most strong, *
Joseph most obedient, *
Joseph most faithful, *
Mirror of patience, *
Lover of poverty, *
Model of artisans, *
Glory of home life, *
Guardian of virgins, *
Pillar of families, *
Solace of the wretched, *
Hope of the sick, *
Patron of the dying, *
Terror of demons, *
Protector of Holy Church, *
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Spare us, O Lord!.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Graciously hear us, O Lord!
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world,
Have mercy on us.
V. He made him the lord of His household.
R. And prince over all His possessions.
Let us pray:
O God, Who in Thine ineffable providence didst vouchsafe to choose Blessed Joseph to be the spouse of Thy most holy Mother; grant, we beseech Thee, that we may be worthy to have him for our intercessor in heaven whom we venerate as our Protector on earth: Who livest and reignest forever and ever. Amen.
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DL, Hang tough, there’s still job opportunities out there.
We pray that St. Anthony help you find one. :pray:
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Life’s circuмstances are God’s marching orders, I’m sure there’s a better job out there for you, DL! Prayers for you and yours.:pray:
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Awwwww fire buckets :'( :facepalm:
St Joseph aid thee in finding better prospects!
(Ole Confederate Kaz almost in same boat. Trying to return to work after a very very long health absence. God tries those He loves and then some. Paws folded in prayers!)
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Awwwww fire buckets :'( :facepalm:
St Joseph aid thee in finding better prospects!
(Ole Confederate Kaz almost in same boat. Trying to return to work after a very very long health absence. God tries those He loves and then some. Paws folded in prayers!)
Yeah, it's for the better. I got canned because I pulled a blasphemous magnet off someone's car. It got back to HR, and since I was a supervisor they got me for harassment and theft.
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Yeah, it's for the better. I got canned because I pulled a blasphemous magnet off someone's car. It got back to HR, and since I was a supervisor they got me for harassment and theft.
DL, I don't know you from Adam, but I've always liked your byline.
Now I like you even more. That was a very Catholic and a very daring thing to do. You thought of Christ before yourself.
You've got a lot of people praying for you, me included. God will lead you through this tribulation.
Bravo; and I'm sorry you and yours are suffering. May God swiftly come to your aid! :pray:
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Badge of honor, then DL.
( Since they fired you for something so minor, maybe you could get the car owner and the business that supports them on a hate speech violation..... work is no longer a free speech area as it is private property. They shouldn't have anything offensive to anyone in the company parking lot)
Call Thomas More Law-
Curious to see what they think.
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Yeah, it's for the better. I got canned because I pulled a blasphemous magnet off someone's car. It got back to HR, and since I was a supervisor they got me for harassment and theft.
Tolerance of evil is more important to modern society than respect for our Lord. I pray that you find a better job.
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I’m so very sorry to hear this, DL.
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Matthew 5:10-12
Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake: Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you.
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Yeah, it's for the better. I got canned because I pulled a blasphemous magnet off someone's car. It got back to HR, and since I was a supervisor they got me for harassment and theft.
Congratulations, DL! Good work.
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Oh no DL. prayers for you!
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I'm sure your anti-jab stance played a part as well. It seems to me there would be discipline before a firing.
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I'm sure your anti-jab stance played a part as well. It seems to me there would be discipline before a firing.
Well, that's the thing about it. I told my boss three weeks ago what I did and she didn't really bat an eye at it she thought the magnet (it said "Satan loves me") was stupid. I warned her it was reported to HR, but I didn't even get to tell much of my side at all. I had a perfect record, no discipline, was a good employee. It had to be a factor since they have it on record that I request religious exemptions from mandatory jabs.
We did a very prompt, informal meeting this evening where I was asked some questions to get "my side" only as a formality before she said I was being terminated. Given her reaction, I know she was really tore up about it, so clearly this came from higher ups and HR goys to just cut me loose. It was over in two minutes and I'm packing my stuff and out the door.
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I could no way ever be a supervisor again. God will surely provide for you DL!
From a book I know you like, Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence (http://olrl.org/snt_docs/trustful/)
Either free me from poverty, or make it so pleasant for me that I would not exchange it for all the wealth in the world. Either take away my suffering, or -- which would be to your greater glory -- change it into delight for me, and instead of causing me affliction, let it become a source of joy. You can take away the burden of my cross, or you can leave it with me without my feeling its weight. You can extinguish the fire that burns me, or you can let it burn in such a way that it refreshes me as it did the three youths in the fiery furnace. I ask you for either one thing or the other. What does it matter in what way I am happy? If I am happy through the possession of worldly goods, it is you I have to thank. If I am happy when deprived of them, it gives you greater glory and my thanks are all the greater.
Keep praying the bolded throughout the day.
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Well, that's the thing about it. I told my boss three weeks ago what I did and she didn't really bat an eye at it she thought the magnet (it said "Satan loves me") was stupid. I warned her it was reported to HR, but I didn't even get to tell much of my side at all. I had a perfect record, no discipline, was a good employee. It had to be a factor since they have it on record that I request religious exemptions from mandatory jabs.
We did a very prompt, informal meeting this evening where I was asked some questions to get "my side" only as a formality before she said I was being terminated. Given her reaction, I know she was really tore up about it, so clearly this came from higher ups and HR goys to just cut me loose. It was over in two minutes and I'm packing my stuff and out the door.
Nice mug shot, DL!!
You look quite a bit like what I pictured. Posting your face is a good sign that you're feeling frisky. You're on a roll!!
The more details I know, the more I like what you did. You incorporated chain of command by telling your superior. If only more Catholics would act like Catholics at work. If they did, they would make a difference.
Basically they canned you to teach you a lesson. But you taught them a lesson, and may you always teach other Catholics their lessons.
May God bless you for actually living your faith on the weekdays.
Say, can your boss do anything to restore you to your position when the smoke clears?
And by what means did the incident get to HR?
And how long between the time you executed Catholic justice and the time they retaliated against you?
And did the idiot owner of the magnet ever confront you?
I hope you don't mind the questions. You seem willing to talk about it, so I feel free to ask.
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Nice mug shot, DL!!
You look quite a bit like what I pictured. Posting your face is a good sign that you're feeling frisky. You're on a roll!!
The more details I know, the more I like what you did. You incorporated chain of command by telling your superior. If only more Catholics would act like Catholics at work. If they did, they would make a difference.
Basically they canned you to teach you a lesson. But you taught them a lesson, and may you always teach other Catholics their lessons.
May God bless you for actually living your faith on the weekdays.
Say, can your boss do anything to restore you to your position when the smoke clears?
No. She has no real power in a corporate ladder. I think it came down from my VP or Director, plus if you've ever dealt with HR they wield a lot of power. I could appeal and have them reevaluate, but given my experience with that on the other side, they won't rescind it.
And by what means did the incident get to HR?
The blasphemer reported it either to campus police or HR. I spoke on the phone with the cops weeks ago, and they gave me a lecture, no record, ticket or time. I knew I was screwed when they said it went to HR since I was a supervisor.
And how long between the time you executed Catholic justice and the time they retaliated against you?
A week maybe. Jan 6 cops called me. The owner said they didn't want to press charges or anything. But it "freaked them out". I noticed that they went and removed all of their woke bumper stickers after that too lol
And did the idiot owner of the magnet ever confront you?
No. According to the cops they were "chill" about it. Most people are so afraid of confrontation that I didn't expect them to anyway, plus the cops probably told them to avoid me, if they knew who I was.
I hope you don't mind the questions. You seem willing to talk about it, so I feel free to ask.
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It's possible that someone in the chain is actually a Satanist, or they had some prior beef with you. I've found that with most companies they have some HR policies that they rarely enforce, but then could pull out if they want to get you for some other reason. So, for instance, they'll have a policy that personal use of work computers is not permitted. Everybody uses the work computer for SOME personal thing here or there. But if they decided they wanted to get rid of someone, they could pull that out of their back pocket and suddenly enforce it.
My question is -- how did you get caught? I tend to do stuff like that on the sly, when nobody's looking. I'll take condoms in stores and throw them behind the shelf, or smutty magazines, etc. They end up where no one will even bother to look for years. But I always make sure that "the coast is clear". :laugh1:
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Now go to unemployment. Then call St Thomas Society.
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Yeah, it's for the better. I got canned because I pulled a blasphemous magnet off someone's car. It got back to HR, and since I was a supervisor they got me for harassment and theft.
I was checking the internet for "wrongful termination" and "just cause", and unfortunately if this was truly "theft" that is one of those things that is considered just cause. I was hoping you could fight it. It might make sense to at least consult with a lawyer to see if it applies to your situation?
What is "just cause" for termination? - RavenLaw (https://ravenlaw.com/news/just-cause-termination/#:~:text=Theft and fraud constitute serious misconduct which%2C even,leave and conducting personal business on company time.)
ETA: I see the above link is from Canada, but I'm thinking it's probably the same in the US as well.
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It's possible that someone in the chain is actually a Satanist, or they had some prior beef with you. I've found that with most companies they have some HR policies that they rarely enforce, but then could pull out if they want to get you for some other reason. So, for instance, they'll have a policy that personal use of work computers is not permitted. Everybody uses the work computer for SOME personal thing here or there. But if they decided they wanted to get rid of someone, they could pull that out of their back pocket and suddenly enforce it.
My question is -- how did you get caught? I tend to do stuff like that on the sly, when nobody's looking. I'll take condoms in stores and throw them behind the shelf, or smutty magazines, etc. They end up where no one will even bother to look for years. But I always make sure that "the coast is clear". :laugh1:
Yes, I think it was because I was on file as having refused the jab multiple times via my exemptions. But also because I was management.
I think the cops pulled the video from that day in the ramp and spoke with each person they saw entering. Unless there was a dash cam on the car. I literally just swiped it as I walked past and disposed of it elsewhere. It wasn't super obvious, I believe. I don't recall there being a camera where they were parked.
I was checking the internet for "wrongful termination" and "just cause", and unfortunately if this was truly "theft" that is one of those things that is considered just cause. I was hoping you could fight it. It might make sense to at least consult with a lawyer to see if it applies to your situation?
What is "just cause" for termination? - RavenLaw (https://ravenlaw.com/news/just-cause-termination/#:~:text=Theft and fraud constitute serious misconduct which%2C even,leave and conducting personal business on company time.)
ETA: I see the above link is from Canada, but I'm thinking it's probably the same in the US as well.
Yeah, that's how the cop I spoke with framed it too, as theft. Then he lectured me on the 1st amendment and that was that.
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Yes, I think it was because I was on file as having refused the jab multiple times via my exemptions. But also because I was management.
I think the cops pulled the video from that day in the ramp and spoke with each person they saw entering. Unless there was a dash cam on the car. I literally just swiped it as I walked past and disposed of it elsewhere. It wasn't super obvious, I believe. I don't recall there being a camera where they were parked.
Yeah, that's how the cop I spoke with framed it too, as theft. Then he lectured me on the 1st amendment and that was that.
So the Satanist freak complained that someone took his bumper magnet and they went to review the camera footage? Unbelievable. If someone brought a complaint about that to me, I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of my time, "Maybe your thing fell off. We've got bigger things to worry about." I'm not about to go thour 8 hours of video footage for something that stupid.
Maybe you could put a "racist" or "sexist" bumper sticker on your car to express YOUR first amendment, and they would undoubtedly send you packing for that. If some Person of Color then removed your magnet, you would be the one getting in trouble.
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So the Satanist freak complained that someone took his bumper magnet and they went to review the camera footage? Unbelievable. If someone brought a complaint about that to me, I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of my time, "Maybe your thing fell off. We've got bigger things to worry about." I'm not about to go thour 8 hours of video footage for something that stupid.
Maybe you could put a "racist" or "sexist" bumper sticker on your car to express YOUR first amendment, and they would undoubtedly send you packing for that. If some Person of Color then removed your magnet, you would be the one getting in trouble.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. If I had a swastika on the back of my car I know for a FACT it would be reported and I would've been fired.
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Would this have been a case where the end does not justify the means? (Theft) Another case where our hood intentions actually cause us to do wrong? I know that the question of whether it is ok to lie for a good cause often comes to my mind. Is it a sin or not to lie in such a way? Or is silence or deceptive speech the best way? But then such a response might reveal the truth. The consequences of the evil caused would still be on someone else's soul, and it would be God's right to revenge.
So that, at least I, may learn something by a confirmation of my suspicion, would it have been better to just leave that horrible magnet?
I'm still praying for you. Being out of work sucks, but at least there's a lot more time for prayer, meditation, spiritual reading, ect. Make the best of this time while you can.
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Well, one thing your company doesn't want is any attention or media regarding their decision that may affect their business or public persona.
Maybe a letter from a lawyer warning them that unless reinstated or compensated for their actions against you, they will have a lengthy PUBLIC legal process to deal with in the near future.
This is NOT a first amendment case as it happened on private property. The company's decision was solely their own. They could have ignored it or given you a reprimand -nothing as severe as loss of employment.
If you are up for it, ( and sometimes it's not worth it- your choice) I would pursue it in a civil court for compensation.You would have to get a good Catholic Lawyer, pro-bono.
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I just prayed to St. Joseph for your intention. I hope that you rebound quickly and land a better gig. DL, although I don't know you it appears from this thread that you are a man of integrity and honor. I'm sorry that you lost your job. As a husband, father, and provider that is a terrifying thing. Do you have a wife and children? I only ask because if you do, what you did took extra courage. I am the sole provider for my family of six. My wife homeschools our four young boys. I worry that if I lose my job, or my ability to work, that my wife may have to work again and my kids would have to go into the public school system around all of the filth of this modern world. So I try to lay low at work and not make waves. A few years ago a close friend of mine got fired over a somewhat similar circuмstance to yours. Afterward he said to me that he didn't regret what he had done, but that he wouldn't have done it again because he didn't change any minds or wake up any NPCs as a result of his actions, which is what he was aiming for. So he and I have a text group with other like-minded guys that support each other as we have to live inside the demon matrix to collect our shekels.
A final anecdote of hope. A little over a year ago I had to give up a job that I liked because of their jab mandate and refusal to grant exemption. I found another job that was willing to grant me an exemption, and was able to transition smoothly without any employment gaps, which was a blessing, but I had to take a substantial pay cut going to the other job. It was an extremely stressful time for me. Then, about six months ago I heard from a former coworker with that company that they were closing the division that I had worked in. All of my old coworker from that job were now looking for employment elsewhere. So I would have had to leave and take that pay cut eventually anyway, but at least I got to do it on my own terms. So it gave me some consolation over the distress and frustration that I had felt for my reduction of income. Stay strong brother!
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Well, one thing your company doesn't want is any attention or media regarding their decision that may affect their business or public persona.
Maybe a letter from a lawyer warning them that unless reinstated or compensated for their actions against you, they will have a lengthy PUBLIC legal process to deal with in the near future.
This is NOT a first amendment case as it happened on private property. The company's decision was solely their own. They could have ignored it or given you a reprimand -nothing as severe as loss of employment.
If you are up for it, ( and sometimes it's not worth it- your choice) I would pursue it in a civil court for compensation.You would have to get a good Catholic Lawyer, pro-bono.
As I mentioned up thread....I think it's at least worth looking into especially given his employment record was spotless.
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As I mentioned up thread....I think it's at least worth looking into especially given his employment record was spotless.
Yes, I saw. I think civilly if there are any merits to the case, it's that the punishment is not justified in comparison to the act and there are damages to DL here.
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Would this have been a case where the end does not justify the means? (Theft) Another case where our hood intentions actually cause us to do wrong? I know that the question of whether it is ok to lie for a good cause often comes to my mind. Is it a sin or not to lie in such a way? Or is silence or deceptive speech the best way? But then such a response might reveal the truth. The consequences of the evil caused would still be on someone else's soul, and it would be God's right to revenge.
So that, at least I, may learn something by a confirmation of my suspicion, would it have been better to just leave that horrible magnet?
I'm still praying for you. Being out of work sucks, but at least there's a lot more time for prayer, meditation, spiritual reading, ect. Make the best of this time while you can.
No. This object has no objective right to exist or to be possessed by anyone. No one has a right to possess it and therefore has no ownership rights to it. Unless of course you believe in Religious Liberty. According to Vatican II, they do have a right to own it, and this would be theft. This is a clear example of the ramifications of Religious Liberty. But in Catholic reality, no, this is not theft, since they have no rights in justice to own it.
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No. This object has no objective right to exist or to be possessed by anyone. No one has a right to possess it and therefore has no ownership rights to it. Unless of course you believe in Religious Liberty. According to Vatican II, they do have a right to own it, and this would be theft. This is a clear example of the ramifications of Religious Liberty. But in Catholic reality, no, this is not theft, since they have no rights in justice to own it.
Thanks for your clarity. I wasn't honestly sure myself. I thought at least a venial sin given it wasn't a really grave matter. But I figured its removal justified it in itself
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Thanks for your clarity. I wasn't honestly sure myself. I thought at least a venial sin given it wasn't a really grave matter. But I figured its removal justified it in itself
I would speak with your priest about it.
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Thanks for your clarity. I wasn't honestly sure myself. I thought at least a venial sin given it wasn't a really grave matter. But I figured its removal justified it in itself
We've had some Catholic martyrs who were killed because they destroyed some pagan idols that didn't belong to them.
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Well, that's the thing about it. I told my boss three weeks ago what I did and she didn't really bat an eye at it she thought the magnet (it said "Satan loves me") was stupid. I warned her it was reported to HR, but I didn't even get to tell much of my side at all. I had a perfect record, no discipline, was a good employee. It had to be a factor since they have it on record that I request religious exemptions from mandatory jabs.
We did a very prompt, informal meeting this evening where I was asked some questions to get "my side" only as a formality before she said I was being terminated. Given her reaction, I know she was really tore up about it, so clearly this came from higher ups and HR goys to just cut me loose. It was over in two minutes and I'm packing my stuff and out the door.
As soon as the complaint from your subordinate was received, HR (together with upper management) performed a risk assessment to determine what was in the “best interest” of the company, and determined it was riskier to keep you than letting you go.
They we’re more afraid of what waves the devil worshipper might make for them, than what the good guy might do.
HR’s only purpose is to protect company interests. Those who believe it is to protect employees are naive.
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HR’s only purpose is to protect company interests. Those who believe it is to protect employees are naive.
Yes, HR -- let us remember that stands for "Human Resources". Real warm and fuzzy...
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What a contrast! I’d have been fired from my last job for having a blasphemous car magnet!
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Yes, I think it was because I was on file as having refused the jab multiple times via my exemptions. But also because I was management.
I think the cops pulled the video from that day in the ramp and spoke with each person they saw entering. Unless there was a dash cam on the car. I literally just swiped it as I walked past and disposed of it elsewhere. It wasn't super obvious, I believe. I don't recall there being a camera where they were parked.
Yeah, that's how the cop I spoke with framed it too, as theft. Then he lectured me on the 1st amendment and that was that.
DL, thank you so much for your gracious answers to my questions. Though there is much to discuss here, prayer for you and your family comes first, and I haven't forgotten that.
If you don't mind, your additional replies raise other questions for me. Apparently you intended to execute justice "while the coast was clear," as Lad qualified it. Are you telling us that the idiot moron who sported the thing actually missed it? Actually noticed it was missing? I mean what kind of effeminate wimp would keep track of his bumper stickers? It's a "man," I presume. And I presume also that this "theft victim" did not know it was you when he/she/it reported it, yes?
And were you identified as the perp because they saw something on camera or because you came clean either voluntarily or when asked about it?
The whole thing is bizarre, and I mean it may have been the very demons that agitated against you. I've had it happen to me, and if our Lord allows it, they can do damage to your external goods.
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So the Satanist freak complained that someone took his bumper magnet and they went to review the camera footage? Unbelievable. If someone brought a complaint about that to me, I wouldn't waste 5 minutes of my time, "Maybe your thing fell off. We've got bigger things to worry about." I'm not about to go thour 8 hours of video footage for something that stupid.
Maybe you could put a "racist" or "sexist" bumper sticker on your car to express YOUR first amendment, and they would undoubtedly send you packing for that. If some Person of Color then removed your magnet, you would be the one getting in trouble.
EXACTLY on all counts. Hence my questions. What kind of man keeps track of his girly stickers, especially when his car was probably plastered with them? Something's off.
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I just prayed to St. Joseph for your intention. I hope that you rebound quickly and land a better gig. DL, although I don't know you it appears from this thread that you are a man of integrity and honor. I'm sorry that you lost your job. As a husband, father, and provider that is a terrifying thing. Do you have a wife and children? I only ask because if you do, what you did took extra courage. I am the sole provider for my family of six. My wife homeschools our four young boys. I worry that if I lose my job, or my ability to work, that my wife may have to work again and my kids would have to go into the public school system around all of the filth of this modern world. So I try to lay low at work and not make waves. A few years ago a close friend of mine got fired over a somewhat similar circuмstance to yours. Afterward he said to me that he didn't regret what he had done, but that he wouldn't have done it again because he didn't change any minds or wake up any NPCs as a result of his actions, which is what he was aiming for. So he and I have a text group with other like-minded guys that support each other as we have to live inside the demon matrix to collect our shekels.
A final anecdote of hope. A little over a year ago I had to give up a job that I liked because of their jab mandate and refusal to grant exemption. I found another job that was willing to grant me an exemption, and was able to transition smoothly without any employment gaps, which was a blessing, but I had to take a substantial pay cut going to the other job. It was an extremely stressful time for me. Then, about six months ago I heard from a former coworker with that company that they were closing the division that I had worked in. All of my old coworker from that job were now looking for employment elsewhere. So I would have had to leave and take that pay cut eventually anyway, but at least I got to do it on my own terms. So it gave me some consolation over the distress and frustration that I had felt for my reduction of income. Stay strong brother!
Great post! You state the dilemma well. And yes, DL is a family man.
And it really is a dilemma because fear strenthens the matrix (the filthy thing runs on fear); yet being made an example of is a lonely business.
I know that God will help DL. We have to see now what happens.
Prayers, prayers, prayers!
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What a contrast! I’d have been fired from my last job for having a blasphemous car magnet!
That’s a shame. I think people give us a hard time on the road because of our Jesus fish on our car. What was your magnet?
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We've had some Catholic martyrs who were killed because they destroyed some pagan idols that didn't belong to them.
Yes, I think we've been brainwashed to think taking manly action is a sin. He could have left it there, but his Catholicity impelled him to take action. That's manly. I hate the injustice, but I like the take action of it.
Someone else mentioned how inequitable is the balance of harm. Some scuмbag lost a $5 trinket, and a Crusader lost his livelihood - TEMPORARILY.
Stinks of the preternatural to me.
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Yes, I think we've been brainwashed to think taking manly action is a sin. He could have left it there, but his Catholicity impelled him to take action. That's manly. I hate the injustice, but I like the take action of it.
Someone else mentioned how inequitable is the balance of harm. Some scuмbag lost a $5 trinket, and a Crusader lost his livelihood - TEMPORARILY.
Stinks of the preternatural to me.
So are we expected to always take such a thing? That's a lot of bumper stickers etc
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First amendment never included satanism and hate vulgar speech. As Catholics, the bumper sticker means hate for Jesus and Christianity.
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So are we expected to always take such a thing? That's a lot of bumper stickers etc
Of course not. It's not a sin to walk by and leave such things alone. I think the point is that it's not a sin when someone takes action to remove noxious filth that has no rights. For example, what if it was an explicitly x-rated picture displayed in public? The common good trumps the self-proclaimed-but-really-non-existent-rights of the filthbearers, no?
Only SCOTUS, only rogue usurped authority - may it all come tumbling down - gives to evil "rights."
Prudence dictates in each situation, and that includes assuming the risk of retaliation. God sees everything and the devil sees a lot. He will retaliate if God permits.
But your advice above was good. Let DL take it to the confessional, where hopefully he will receive correct information.
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As soon as the complaint from your subordinate was received, HR (together with upper management) performed a risk assessment to determine what was in the “best interest” of the company, and determined it was riskier to keep you than letting you go.
They we’re more afraid of what waves the devil worshipper might make for them, than what the good guy might do.
HR’s only purpose is to protect company interests. Those who believe it is to protect employees are naive.
Yes, of course they did. To be charitable to the "victim", according to the cops they were not looking to get me into trouble or press charges they just wanted it to stop. Which means they have no idea who took it and leads me to suspect the cop either clearly saw me take it, or gaslit whoever he talked to until someone fessed up. I think they reported it to HR first and it then went to the police because it is the campus ramp, not owned by the employer. Outside of the bad will of whatever possesses this person to own such a magnet, I don't think they had malice.
The whole thing is bizarre, and I mean it may have been the very demons that agitated against you. I've had it happen to me, and if our Lord allows it, they can do damage to your external goods.
I honestly suspect this too. These things never sit for over 2 weeks and then suddenly drop. There would've been some indication from my boss last Friday if something was up. So some sort of powers are involved here, especially since I made a good confession Sunday :incense:
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No. This object has no objective right to exist or to be possessed by anyone. No one has a right to possess it and therefore has no ownership rights to it. Unless of course you believe in Religious Liberty. According to Vatican II, they do have a right to own it, and this would be theft. This is a clear example of the ramifications of Religious Liberty. But in Catholic reality, no, this is not theft, since they have no rights in justice to own it.
Of course not. It's not a sin to walk by and leave such things alone. I think the point is that it's not a sin when someone takes action to remove noxious filth that has no rights. For example, what if it was an explicitly x-rated picture displayed in public? The common good trumps the self-proclaimed-but-really-non-existent-rights of the filthbearers, no?
Only SCOTUS, only rogue usurped authority - may it all come tumbling down - gives to evil "rights."
Prudence dictates in each situation, and that includes assuming the risk of retaliation. God sees everything and the devil sees a lot. He will retaliate if God permits.
But your advice above was good. Let DL take it to the confessional, where hopefully he will receive correct information.
Great posts, thanks.
My big issue of uncertainty comes with judging the prudence of such an action. I guess it would come down to personal preference of the consequences especially considering their state in life, and how it could affect those they care for if one of the worse case scenarios happens.
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You didn’t do theft. Theft would be “cool. I want that magnet for my own car”. You removed it because it was offensive to God and yourself as a Christian. You were the one being harassed.
You removed an evil magnet and got rid of it. We should all do this. Where are the Sspx hierarchy to fight against luciferians, satanic masses and pedophile statues with satan and little children. Novus ordo hierarchy are sodomite luciferians waiting for sex with children to be legal. United Nations says little children have rights to view porn
What a messed up company that supported satan with jabs & allowing satanic bumper stickers. A black man wears a Jesus shirt at the mall and they are quick to tell him to remove it.
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I will offer my daily trials at work for you to find another good job, for the greater glory of Our Lord. I offer each of my work day to Christ for His greater glory and for more love, devotion and veneration to His Holy Mother and St. Joseph.
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DL, you should make a bumper sticker to put on your car that says "Satan hates you." :laugh1:
Seriously though, I'm sorry to hear this has happened. I will pray for you. :pray:
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First amendment never included satanism and hate vulgar speech. As Catholics, the bumper sticker means hate for Jesus and Christianity.
Yes. Can you imagine if someone had an image offensive to Moslems? The Moslem would have been supported in taking it.
But when a Christian objects to something which offends the One True God, this upside-down society wants to protect the offender and do damage to the Godly man.
This is a form of White Martyrdom.
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Anyone who thinks Satan loves them has obviously not met the diabolical fellow or any of his minions. People who put such things ontheir vehicles think they are edgy and cool. True Satanists would never disclose their belief. The owner of the vehicle in question is a nearly useless idiot in Satan's eyes.
Part of me would like to go up to such a person and say, "So you think Satan loves you, well, why dont you go down and ask him. Here, I will help you."
(https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F7b02acf0-a5e3-11e6-9a56-fbc08fa6e078.jpg?crop=1824%2C1026%2C220%2C191&resize=685)
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Yes. Can you imagine if someone had an image offensive to Moslems? The Moslem would have been supported in taking it.
But when a Christian objects to something which offends the One True God, this upside-down society wants to protect the offender and do damage to the Godly man.
This is a form of White Martyrdom.
If this had happened to a Moslem, they would eventually have gotten a pay raise. You can thank the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Novus ordo presbyters for this.
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Well, the positives we have going for us are that we have a good nest egg right now and I should be getting my retirement funds plus what they matched back too, which is a lot. So we have the option of either finding something I like or moving out of state.
God has blessed us with much in the last 6 months, this might be one more blessing. Plus, I don't have to deal with a woke work culture anymore or babysit adults, as much as I miss my boss and coworkers. :jester:
Glory to God
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Well, the positives we have going for us are that we have a good nest egg right now and I should be getting my retirement funds plus what they matched back too, which is a lot. So we have the option of either finding something I like or moving out of state.
God has blessed us with much in the last 6 months, this might be one more blessing. Plus, I don't have to deal with a woke work culture anymore or babysit adults, as much as I miss my boss and coworkers. :jester:
Glory to God
Prayers for you and your wife as you work through the aftermath. :-)
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We will pray for you and your family.
May God bless you and protect you all.
Yes. Move to a state safe for your family. Sad that we are even thinking about it.
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We will pray for you and your family.
May God bless you and protect you all.
Yes. Move to a state safe for your family.
My wife was talking either NC (where her brother lives) or Montana
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Sounds like a good plan. (Maybe we should move this thread to members only. )
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My wife was talking either NC (where her brother lives) or Montana
Consider the Ozarks.