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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: MyrnaM Rest in Peace
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2022, 08:18:53 PM »
I get that this is a kinda side point, but if Mel confessed/received last rites right before dying would
that be enough to pray for him/consider it not scandalous to pray for him publically?

Of course.  I was speaking about if he were to die of a sudden heart attack without having shown any public sign of repentance.  Church would refuse Christian burial in that case.  We could still of course pray that God perhaps gave him a sudden grace of repentance, but it's a fine line to walk between realizing that God CAN intervene in a way that's unknown to us and then giving the impression that there's good hope of salvation for someone who dies in public sin.  I think it was St. John Vianney who had the famous case of a ѕυιcιdє where he said that in the moment of time between when the person jumped and when he hit the water, had had time to make a perfect act of contrition.  Mind you, in those situations, the contrition would have to be perfect, and not just motivated by attrition or fear.  God can even suspend time and speak to the interior of the soul, or the entire conversation between God and the soul could happen in a mere instant of time.  AND it's even possible for a departed infidel that God could enlighten the soul in the last moments, and even send an angel to baptize the person.  Nothing is impossible for God, and we all know that.  But I think it's important not to project those types of things that would be a major exception into some sense that there's good hope of salvation.  Otherwise, that could lead to complacency for people to remain in grave sin.  St. Alphonsus said that those types of cases are one in a million.

Re: MyrnaM Rest in Peace
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2022, 11:16:11 PM »
Speaking of posts that require correction, I present Exhibit A above ^^^.  I find it shocking that this received two upthumbs.  You have no earthly idea bout whether Myrna is now among the Church Triumphant, and to declare this and to canonize her is to do her a great disservice.  This second sentence is pure unadulterated Novus Ordo trash.  You should have just rolled out the white vestments, clowns, and the balloons.
The bolded is incredibly ironic considering she lived through Vatican II firsthand. It goes against everything the Faith stands for and is pure Protestantism. Speaking of JP2, it reminds me of when they shouted "Santo Subito" and wanted him canonized the moment news of his passing broke. It's very bad.


Re: MyrnaM Rest in Peace
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2022, 11:35:16 PM »
Of course.  I was speaking about if he were to die of a sudden heart attack without having shown any public sign of repentance.  Church would refuse Christian burial in that case.  We could still of course pray that God perhaps gave him a sudden grace of repentance, but it's a fine line to walk between realizing that God CAN intervene in a way that's unknown to us and then giving the impression that there's good hope of salvation for someone who dies in public sin.  I think it was St. John Vianney who had the famous case of a ѕυιcιdє where he said that in the moment of time between when the person jumped and when he hit the water, had had time to make a perfect act of contrition.  Mind you, in those situations, the contrition would have to be perfect, and not just motivated by attrition or fear.  God can even suspend time and speak to the interior of the soul, or the entire conversation between God and the soul could happen in a mere instant of time.  AND it's even possible for a departed infidel that God could enlighten the soul in the last moments, and even send an angel to baptize the person.  Nothing is impossible for God, and we all know that.  But I think it's important not to project those types of things that would be a major exception into some sense that there's good hope of salvation.  Otherwise, that could lead to complacency for people to remain in grave sin.  St. Alphonsus said that those types of cases are one in a million.
It think it would be decent of you to start another thread for these pontifications and leave this thread for those who want to remember Myrna in peace and prayer. 🙏 

Re: MyrnaM Rest in Peace
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2022, 05:32:13 AM »
I started a thread where people can talk about this thread rather than Myrna herself:https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/appropriate-responses-to-learning-that-someone-has-died/

I spent some time reading through her old posts yesterday and appreciated it.  If anyone wants to do that, here is a link to her profile: https://www.cathinfo.com/profile/MyrnaM/. (Matthew also included it in the OP.) Just click on that and then click "show posts".

Re: MyrnaM Rest in Peace
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2022, 09:45:46 AM »
Always pray for the faithful departed, including MyrnaM.

MyrnaM frequently went to Mass and recieved the Sacraments, and she received the Last Rites. We know her by her fruits, which were good here on CathInfo and from testimonies of people who personally knew her. She was a solid Catholic and a holy woman. Of course she's of the Church Triumphant. But even if she's in purgatory, she can still pray for us here. To deny these facts is to deny the Faith.