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Offline Matthew

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Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul
« on: August 24, 2007, 08:16:28 AM »
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    Offline gladius_veritatis

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    « Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 09:28:46 AM »
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  • This may or may not have been a "dark night".  Some of her other comments incline me to think she had no supernatural faith - but God alone knows.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul
    « Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 09:53:13 AM »
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  • If she had not faith, what kept her going at a primarily thankless and nasty task.  We know that people who lose their faith, leave their good works.  If she had no faith, she had no supernatural love, without which she could not have continued in such a depressing venture.  UNLESS she was a charlatan out for fame and feeding on it.

    I'm just coming out of a dry spell myself.  Even though the good Bishop tells me not to rely on feelings, I know for a fact that feelings are the fuel that charges and recharges your spiritual life.  They make you eager to pray.  Without them prayer is a cold duty and not well done.  Without them you feel dead and "what's the use".  You can live on dry faith alone, but you are pretty darned anemic and inclined to find food elsewhere, since there seems to be none there.

    Anyway, she had to be a charlatan or a saint, and if a charlatan, why bother talk about her lost faith? Why bemoan it?  Charlatans have faith in themselves alone.
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    Please pray for the repose of her soul.

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    Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul
    « Reply #3 on: August 24, 2007, 02:05:17 PM »
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  • The world is full of those who sacrifice themselves for a purely humanitarian end - often in thankless, potentially harmful endeavors.  She said some things that no Catholic could have possibly said, as they manifested utter indifference toward supernatural truth, etc.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #4 on: August 24, 2007, 03:07:46 PM »
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  • I'm not following you on the indifference.
    +RIP
    Please pray for the repose of her soul.


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    Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul
    « Reply #5 on: August 24, 2007, 04:53:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    This may or may not have been a "dark night".  Some of her other comments incline me to think she had no supernatural faith - but God alone knows.


    I would suspect she was a Roman Protestant front, who did some good work in a country, India, where the poorest of the poor were said in fatalistic fashion to almost 'deserve' their fate. And she said, no, they didn't. And she tried to comfort some in their last hours. For others, she was accused of letting them suffer, because suffering is good . . well. She was accused of financial mismanagement, of not knowing where the money was or went, and of hypocrisy in preferring first class medical treatment while stripping the various convents of superficial trappings, like carpeting. And so on. It did seem that some of what she was about was - for show.

    That's never good.

    She also spoke against permissive abortion. This is something the Roman Protestant bishops increasingly stopped speaking against, at least so publicly. She seemed, spiritual, in a way, but not necessarily in a Catholic way.

    That was the complaint of Coomaraswamy, of course, when he wrote to her about her comments suggesting indifferentism. She replied with what seemed vague confusion and then passed off future correspondence to some 'expert'. But Coomaraswamy, along with 'getting' the idea that 'new church' really was a new church, and very different from Catholicism, also seemed to 'get' what was going on with Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Had it not been for Muggeridge's promotion, who knows if some of the criticisms of her might not have been taken more seriously, rather than relegated to a Commie debunker, with little credibility, like Hitchens.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 05:27:27 PM »
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    I'm not following you on the indifference.


    She was not interested in converting people, just ministering to their physical needs.  If she met a Moslem, she wanted him to be a good Moslem; if she met a Hindu, she wanted him to be a good Hindu, etc.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 05:32:30 PM »
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    I'm not following you on the indifference.


    She was not interested in converting people, just ministering to their physical needs.  If she met a Moslem, she wanted him to be a good Moslem; if she met a Hindu, she wanted him to be a good Hindu, etc.


    'Trinity' should begin with that correspondence of well-known Catholic, Coomaraswamy, a close personal friend as well of Mother Teresa, who took in his daughter, and for whom he apparently was her attorney in the USA. He was very close to Mother Teresa, in other words.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 11:34:35 PM »
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  • Saint Padre Pio also went through the same feelings as Mother Theresa for a period in his life, of having doubts about the existence of God and feeling empty and in darkness. A lot of the saints went through this "dark night of the soul".

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    « Reply #9 on: August 28, 2007, 03:35:16 AM »
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    « Reply #10 on: August 28, 2007, 08:00:45 AM »
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  • That is odd.  The mark of a true saint is zeal for the House of God and salvation of souls.  Never heard of another kind of saint.
    +RIP
    Please pray for the repose of her soul.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 28, 2007, 12:24:33 PM »
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  • I am afraid that Mother Teresa, along with Jose Escriva and others, is just another V2 poster 'saint.'  There has got to be something wrong with so-called "saints,"  or would-be saints, promoted by the late, man-worshipping JP2.  

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    Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul
    « Reply #12 on: July 09, 2009, 09:25:37 AM »
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  • bump as we have been discussing Mother Teresa in the +Williamson thread


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    Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul
    « Reply #14 on: July 09, 2009, 03:55:08 PM »
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  • I think I'm going to be sick after reading some of the comments on here. Mother Theresa was born into a wealthy family, she had everything and she choose to give it all away so that she could devote her entire life giving dignity and respect to the poorest of the poor. She lived her life in a rotten death infested hell-hole known as Calcutta India because she choose to imitate Christs love of the poor. She devoted her life to promoting the value and worth of the human person from conception until natural death.  She founded an order of sisters that carry on that thankless work to this day.

    Was Mother Theresa perfect? No, she was a human being. She did struggle through the "darkness of the soul". How could you not have some period of spiritual dryness after witnessing some much cruelty and death? Impossible. So for all those that want to nitpick her every action and word I say BACKOFF! Better yet, go do some volunteer work with the Sisters of Charity to find out what Mother Theresa was really all about. Her love for Christ and His Church was second to none. Pray for us Blessed Mother Theressa.