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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers => Topic started by: spouse of Jesus on August 02, 2010, 10:53:18 AM

Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: spouse of Jesus on August 02, 2010, 10:53:18 AM
After all our discussions I came to realize that maybe my notion of faith and charity is not exactly what Christ wanted. I mean maybe it was a wrong sort of love, which I mistook for devotion. It is the part of what I was taught as a child about the way we should love religion:unconditional love and adherence to all teaching bitter or sweet, hard or easy. Sa'adi has a poem about his god:"whether you caress me in love or cast me out in anger, your judgement is all right to me." or an other poet who compares god with a beloved whoes anger is beautiful too."a morning dew on a flower, is like the face of my beloved when angry." Or Baba Tahir who says that even in judegemnt day he will love his god no matter what the sentence maybe. "whether saved or damned." And also all those people who claim that they adhere to their faith not because of eternity, but "because it's teaching are right and makes them wise, happy etc."

All led me and many others to try to respect the authority, that prophet and all the succesors no matter what they said or deed. "a love independant of good or evil."
As a result I was amazed when I saw that you and other Christians love God because of His perfections. You defend the honor and holiness of Jesus and His Saints, while I believed in unconditional holiness and was ready to continue saying "Holy, Holy, Holy" even if I could catch them sining.

Once I found an anti-christian book attributing many sins to our Lord.
My reaction (which I was very proud of) was sth like this:
He was not Son of a Virgin? all right will love Him nevertheless.
He was a ### man a #######  or a disrepctful son? no worries, I will love Him still.

Now I see that it is not what the Church would approve of, it is not the way a good Catholic reacts. I wonder if it was a demonic trick to act like this.
Any ideas, advice or comments?          
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: Trinity on August 02, 2010, 11:21:06 AM
Do you have a Bible, Spouse?
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: spouse of Jesus on August 02, 2010, 11:27:47 AM
 I had a prot translation of the bible, which I got rid of. Now there is a Douay- Rheim one in drbo.org and also in newadvent.org. They are great.
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: Belloc on August 02, 2010, 03:36:54 PM
I kept a KJV around as there is a lot in there-bible and footnotes ,that proves very well the RCC is right, they are wrong.....

BTW-must be upset the Clique in Spokane, now up to 9 ignores.....
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: Alexandria on August 02, 2010, 03:52:07 PM
I would never ignore you, dear Belloc, and read everything you write!   :wink:
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: Emerentiana on August 02, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: Belloc
I kept a KJV around as there is a lot in there-bible and footnotes ,that proves very well the RCC is right, they are wrong.....

BTW-must be upset the Clique in Spokane, now up to 9 ignores.....


I read you too Belloc!
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: Dawn on August 02, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
You know I read you. And, I think it is best to be ignored by the ones who did ignore you.
Heck, since they do not read what I post but just chase me and heckle I wish they would ignore me as well :rahrah:

See, I can use smilie faces too
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: Alexandria on August 02, 2010, 04:14:04 PM
Quote from: Dawn
You know I read you. And, I think it is best to be ignored by the ones who did ignore you.
Heck, since they do not read what I post but just chase me and heckle I wish they would ignore me as well :rahrah:

See, I can use smilie faces too


Somehow, the smilie faces seem cuter when you use them..... :cheers: (we'll pretend it's ginger ale or root beer since I don't drink :wink:)
Title: Maybe I was wrong....
Post by: roscoe on August 02, 2010, 04:14:45 PM
I read Belloc as well but we should not forget that he has called St Luke and Fr Torquemada Judaics and does not understand that Savanarola was a heretic. He also thinks it is important to recognise Catholics as ' the true Jєωs".

Acc to the immortal Pope Leo XIII, Catholics ae the true Romans-- who the true Jєωs are is irrellevant and has been for quite some time.