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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers => Topic started by: 2Vermont on March 28, 2024, 11:14:28 AM
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I read in my (St Andrew's) missal today that it was traditional to wash the feet of 13 poor men. Why 13 and not 12?
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When St. Gregory the Great performed the service a thirteenth figure appeared, believed to have been Angelic. From that time, until the 1955 reforms, the Pope washed the feet of thirteen paupers.
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When St. Gregory the Great performed the service a thirteenth figure appeared, believed to have been Angelic. From that time, until the 1955 reforms, the Pope washed the feet of thirteen paupers.
Thanks Philip!
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Thanks Philip!
You are welcome 2Vermont.
I saw an article (https://www.liturgicalartsjournal.com/2024/03/tapestries-of-papal-court-for-holy.html) earlier about the tapestries that were hung up in St. Peter's Basilica for the service. They are over 500 years old and there are also images in the article of the thirteen poor men lined up.
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Bergoglio's re-imagined the washing of feet:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/28/europe/pope-washes-feet-maundy-thursday-intl/index.html
Pope [sic] Francis breaks with tradition in annual ritual by washing the feet of women only
Even CNN characterizes it as a "break from Tradition".
(https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/ap24088610119744.jpg?q=w_1015,c_fill/f_webp)
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I read in my (St Andrew's) missal today that it was traditional to wash the feet of 13 poor men. Why 13 and not 12?
From what I read, it's only the Pope who was supposed to wash the feet of 13.
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From what I read, it's only the Pope who was supposed to wash the feet of 13.
All the major authors on ceremonial Martinucci, Le Vavasseur, Fortescue etc and the Caeremoniale Episoporum indicate otherwise, e.g.:
[img width= height=]https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=sLsOAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA420&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U04DTjFglM0n4I8A4pvGHoWGqo7oQ&ci=210%2C197%2C760%2C318&edge=0[/img] (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=sLsOAQAAIAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&dq=Le%20Vavasseur&pg=PA420&ci=210%2C197%2C760%2C318&source=bookclip)
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Bergoglio's re-imagined the washing of feet:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/28/europe/pope-washes-feet-maundy-thursday-intl/index.html
Even CNN characterizes it as a "break from Tradition".
(https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/ap24088610119744.jpg?q=w_1015,c_fill/f_webp)
WOW! and they all got dressed up for the occasion.
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WOW! and they all got dressed up for the occasion.
Well, they were prisoners (in jail), so they probably didn't have much better. And it's probably good that they wore pants, or otherwise Bergoglio would have been looking up womens' skirts (from his low angle).
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All the major authors on ceremonial Martinucci, Le Vavasseur, Fortescue etc and the Caeremoniale Episoporum indicate otherwise, e.g.:
[img width= height=]https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=sLsOAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA420&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U04DTjFglM0n4I8A4pvGHoWGqo7oQ&ci=210%2C197%2C760%2C318&edge=0[/img] (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=sLsOAQAAIAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&dq=Le%20Vavasseur&pg=PA420&ci=210%2C197%2C760%2C318&source=bookclip)
When Pius XII moved to inside the Holy Thursday Liturgy, it specified 12. Before then it was an extra-liturgical custom. So I imagine it's a question of whether you're using the pre-1955 or 1955+ Missal.