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Offline Miseremini

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Mary's Hour of Desolation
« on: April 18, 2025, 07:21:34 PM »
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  • For those devoted to the Sorrows of Mary, here is a devotion first practiced in 1240  by the Founders of the Servites and is in the Raccolta.








    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #1 on: April 18, 2025, 07:22:49 PM »
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  • "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #2 on: April 18, 2025, 07:24:27 PM »
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  • "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #3 on: April 18, 2025, 07:25:37 PM »
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  • "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #4 on: April 18, 2025, 07:26:44 PM »
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  • "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #5 on: April 19, 2025, 08:52:26 PM »
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  • For those devoted to the Sorrows of Mary, here is a devotion first practiced in 1240  by the Founders of the Servites and is in the Raccolta.






    Thank you for posting this!

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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #6 on: April 19, 2025, 09:04:29 PM »
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  • Thank you for posting this!
    I'm glad someone thought of her last night.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #7 on: April 20, 2025, 08:16:53 AM »
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  • I'm not a fan of this devotion here, as it seems to portray Our Lady as focused on herself, her loss of Our Lord's Presence, whereas every thought of her entire life was selfless, and the grief would have been focused on Our Lord's Passion and HIM, rather than on herself, as well as for the souls He had just redeemed, offering her suffering toward their salvation.

    Our Lady wanted to do only God's will, and if it was God's will for her to be separated from Our Lord ... physically ... then she would not have give that separation a second thought.  That's actually what the "Dark Night of the Soul" accomplishes in lesser saints (but Our Lady was in that state her entire life).

    That's to say nothing of the fact that Our Lady was always spiritually united to Our Lord, and would not have longed to go into the tomb, as this describes, but knew that He was not there at the time, and she also knew and believed (unlike anyone else, being the only one left keeping the faith) that He would rise from the dead shortly.  This makes it sound almost as if she was grieving as if He'd be gone permanently, i.e. did not believe in the Resurrection.  I doubt that Our Lady was too desolate in this way knowing FULL WELL that Our Lord would shortly be back.  She experienced a greater physical separation after Our Lord Ascended into Heaven, but of course she remained as spiritually united as ever.

    Basically it suggests 1) self-centered focus (at least in its premise) and 2) lack of faith in the Resurrection, since she knew He'd be back very soon

    Our Lady's grief consisted of recalling Her Son's suffering and where souls would be lost despite His Passion.


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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #8 on: April 20, 2025, 08:33:31 AM »
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  • So another level at which Our Lady rises above the rest of us, and we have to avoid the temptation to think of her as any ordinary fallen human being ... whereas most of us would be driven to prevent or alleviate the suffering of those we loved, Our Lady knew that it was necessary and did not wish to alleviate anything Our Lord chose to suffer, but instead united herself to His suffering.  When St. Peter objected to Our Lord's Passion, Our Lord called him Satan.

    St. Felicitas had to watch her sons being martyred ... but in a way rejoiced in their martyrdom despite suffering with them.  How much more did Our Lady do the same.

    I can't think of a scene in Gibson's Passion that I despite more than the one where a very young Jesus is depicted as stumbling (falling perhaps 10 inches given His height at the time and at worst getting a tiny boo boo or knee scrape), and then Gibson shows Our Lady basically "losing it", flailing her arms maniacally.  What a terrible insult to Our Blessed Mother.

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    Re: Mary's Hour of Desolation
    « Reply #9 on: April 20, 2025, 09:08:46 AM »
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  • I can't think of a scene in Gibson's Passion that I despite more than the one where a very young Jesus is depicted as stumbling (falling perhaps 10 inches given His height at the time and at worst getting a tiny boo boo or knee scrape), and then Gibson shows Our Lady basically "losing it", flailing her arms maniacally.  What a terrible insult to Our Blessed Mother.
    I didn't like that scene either, but in defense of it, Jesus was entrusted to the care of Mary and Joseph, so just imagine the Son of God (God) entrusted to your care getting hurt. Perhaps you weren't watchful enough and blame yourself, but either way you'd want to run to help. We don't just leave a consecrated host on the floor when dropped, and it is troubling to Catholics when they see one dropped.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
    "Seek first the kingdom of Heaven..."
    "Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment"