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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2022, 06:43:18 AM »
Quote from: epiphany on July 16, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
The SSPX, unfortunately, seems to have a history of considering women whining when they complain of abuse rather than investigate.

I dispute this.  I've actually known several cases where women falsely alleged abuse (Amber Heard anyone?).  And most of the cases of alleged non-physical abuse were in fact "women whining" about having to obey their husbands and where the woman was in fact the primary "abuser".  There's a real danger of being sucked into a #metoo movement.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2022, 06:46:05 AM »
Quote from: epiphany on July 16, 2022, 03:24:19 PM
Annulment is not granted for abuse unless one spouse knew he had a very abusive temper and did not dilvuge it to either the woman or the priest, prior to marriage. 

Undisclosed "abusive temper" is not grounds for an annulment.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2022, 06:59:35 AM »
Quote from: Nadir on July 16, 2022, 06:50:08 PM
Although you have been corrected many times you still persist in making false claims that lack of foreknowlege of a spouse’s faults can justify annulment. No spouse divulges all his/her faults. We were all in for surprises.

Remember: for better or worse?

Good post! Thank you, Nadir. Annulments are not easy things to obtain (obviously this is not the case in the NO church) and the grounds for one are few indeed. 
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Offline josefamenendez

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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2022, 07:59:23 AM »
What about annulments already granted in the NO? Does R and R accept them as legitimate? If not, who determines whether the annulment "granted" has merit or is legitimate or not? I think SSPX accepts them as they are but I know Pius the V does not accept annulments after 1967
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2022, 10:42:20 AM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on July 17, 2022, 07:59:23 AM
What about annulments already granted in the NO? Does R and R accept them as legitimate? If not, who determines whether the annulment "granted" has merit or is legitimate or not? I think SSPX accepts them as they are but I know Pius the V does not accept annulments after 1967

Perhaps they simply accept them now as is, I don't know, but they used to investigate each one brought to them and then make some kind of "determination" about whether it was legitimate or not ... which is extremely problematic.
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